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post #1 of 17 Old 04-05-2013, 08:28 PM Thread Starter
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Anything to compensate for power loss with bigger tires, besides regearing?

I'm finally picking up new tires (33x10.5x15) and putting on a 4 inch lift on my 93 4cyl with stock gears and axles. I don't think I want to regear because it sounds like too much work, and I'm wondering if there's any alternative to make up for the power loss. Chances are I'm going to lose the use of 5th gear. Please let me know if there's anything I can do without putting too much labor/cost into it.

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post #2 of 17 Old 04-05-2013, 08:31 PM
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short answer = no

go back to smaller tires, regear or engine swap

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post #3 of 17 Old 04-05-2013, 09:06 PM
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Besides the correct answer above you could ditch weight.

Toss....windshield, seats (use a light weight race seat for driver or a milk crate), spare tire, toss the front and rear bumpers, remove the skid plate replace with a skid bar, cut holes and dimple die the frame. Remove front and rear track bars, steering stabilizer, sway bar. Remove the gas tank skid and replace with strap steel or twine if your cheap. Lower the spring lift to 2.5 inch lift, cut body to allow for tire size. Replace roll bar with a chromoly roll bar, or live dangerous and use aluminum. Replace hood with a lexan version. Mold a new light weight grill out of carbon fiber. Throw out the dash and just zip tie and glue gauges in place or toss gauges you don't need them. Only put 3 gallons of gas in the tank at a time. Replace the gas gauge, you will need that. Toss the tail gate, no need for one because there is nothing to keep in, might as well toss the doors as well. Replace the headlights and tail lights with stickers and only run during the day (keep lights for easy replacement during inspection).

So yeah, simple answer is not really, not so simple answer was kinda fun though.

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Besides the correct answer above you could ditch weight.

Toss....windshield, seats (use a light weight race seat for driver or a milk crate), spare tire, toss the front and rear bumpers, remove the skid plate replace with a skid bar, cut holes and dimple die the frame. Remove front and rear track bars, steering stabilizer, sway bar. Remove the gas tank skid and replace with strap steel or twine if your cheap. Lower the spring lift to 2.5 inch lift, cut body to allow for tire size. Replace roll bar with a chromoly roll bar, or live dangerous and use aluminum. Replace hood with a lexan version. Mold a new light weight grill out of carbon fiber. Throw out the dash and just zip tie and glue gauges in place or toss gauges you don't need them. Only put 3 gallons of gas in the tank at a time. Replace the gas gauge, you will need that. Toss the tail gate, no need for one because there is nothing to keep in, might as well toss the doors as well. Replace the headlights and tail lights with stickers and only run during the day (keep lights for easy replacement during inspection).

So yeah, simple answer is not really, not so simple answer was kinda fun though.
I got the most weight savings by replacing the air in my tires with nitrogen.
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post #5 of 17 Old 04-06-2013, 12:38 AM
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Point yourself downhill.

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post #6 of 17 Old 04-06-2013, 02:44 AM
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add more cyls

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Engine swap is the most fun for the money though. V8 wrangler is a head turner just be aide of the exhaust sound

I don't feel like working on anything, at this time.
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Point yourself downhill.
Haha. On certain days and directions I've felt like a sail could really help.
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Haha. On certain days and directions I've felt like a sail could really help.
You don't have a soft top? That's pretty much a sail, right?

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short answer = no

go back to smaller tires, regear or engine swap
Give up a few inches of tire is probably your best bet
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give up a few inches of tire is probably your best bet
never!!!

If it's not supposed to move and does use duct tape.
If it's supposed to move and doesn't use WD40
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post #12 of 17 Old 04-06-2013, 08:44 AM
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Even removing weight the jeep will still be sluggish. The problem you are facing is the distance travelled per driveshaft rotation. I drove my jeep with the stock gears for 1.5 years before I regeared it, and I was so happy with the results.
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post #13 of 17 Old 04-06-2013, 10:51 AM Thread Starter
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I got the most weight savings by replacing the air in my tires with nitrogen.
... I think regearing would be a little easier than doing all of this.
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Besides the correct answer above you could ditch weight.

Toss....windshield, seats (use a light weight race seat for driver or a milk crate), spare tire, toss the front and rear bumpers, remove the skid plate replace with a skid bar, cut holes and dimple die the frame. Remove front and rear track bars, steering stabilizer, sway bar. Remove the gas tank skid and replace with strap steel or twine if your cheap. Lower the spring lift to 2.5 inch lift, cut body to allow for tire size. Replace roll bar with a chromoly roll bar, or live dangerous and use aluminum. Replace hood with a lexan version. Mold a new light weight grill out of carbon fiber. Throw out the dash and just zip tie and glue gauges in place or toss gauges you don't need them. Only put 3 gallons of gas in the tank at a time. Replace the gas gauge, you will need that. Toss the tail gate, no need for one because there is nothing to keep in, might as well toss the doors as well. Replace the headlights and tail lights with stickers and only run during the day (keep lights for easy replacement during inspection).

So yeah, simple answer is not really, not so simple answer was kinda fun though.
I think regearing would be a bit easier than doing all of this...
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didn't mean to quote the first guy^^ don't know how to delete it either..
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