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post #76 of 140 Old 01-06-2013, 08:33 AM
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Good for, or Go for?

http://www.4xshaft.com/index.html $390
Na, the benefits? Just to aid in braking? Sorry I'm ignorant. Or why did you install it for your purposes?

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Na, the benefits? Just to aid in braking? Sorry I'm ignorant. Or why did you install it for your purposes?
Substainal braking when off roading. Connected to the drive train, and on steep slopes, braking front and rear (when in 4wd) . Also the 8.8 parking brake sucked.

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Any particular reason for the dual batteries? They will give you power for longer with the motor off, but the second battery becomes an additional load on the alternator when running. A single high quality battery will generally work better for most applications. The rest looks real good. This weather sure doesn't help drive the ambition up to run out in the cold to work on it does it.
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Any particular reason for the dual batteries? They will give you power for longer with the motor off, but the second battery becomes an additional load on the alternator when running. A single high quality battery will generally work better for most applications. The rest looks real good. This weather sure doesn't help drive the ambition up to run out in the cold to work on it does it.
I have a garage w a wood stove, cold (other than getting the tub on/off) isn;t an issue.

The dual battery is a common upgrade... with a hi AMP alternator. its upgraded from 90 to 136 amp.

with long winching the duals are great. but add multiple off road lights, and extended idle, slow speed crawling its a nice reserve power supply...

I'm already running a DieHard platinum battery and 2 in my full size...

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post #80 of 140 Old 01-06-2013, 08:12 PM
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Yes the dual battery is a common upgrade, but also a common misconception. A 135 amp alternator really isn't that big, most dual battery equiped vehicles run at least 200 amps or dual alternators. We run a lot of heavy loads on vehicles at work and use substantially higher output alternators, 280 amp+ range and still limit the batteries to 1 vehicle and 1 aux. Not trying to hate just want you to be aware. Any shot at being ready for the snow run in feb?
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Yes the dual battery is a common upgrade, but also a common misconception. A 135 amp alternator really isn't that big, most dual battery equiped vehicles run at least 200 amps or dual alternators. We run a lot of heavy loads on vehicles at work and use substantially higher output alternators, 280 amp+ range and still limit the batteries to 1 vehicle and 1 aux. Not trying to hate just want you to be aware. Any shot at being ready for the snow run in feb?

Your kidding right? My 3/4 ton chevy with heavy duty plow and tow package and dual batteries is only running a 145 amp alt. Factory set up. 200 amp alts are aftermarket or special orders usually..

I'm very aware of the install. its just a little extra insurance / reserve. Again when jeeping and winching, there may be alot of idle time and you don't get full amperage recharging at the low rpms..

I'm trying for mid Feb, but doubtful. alot of little things to do...

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Nice frame swap. You definitely took care of most things while you had it under the knife. That Parts Mike bracket is beef and it will do the trick. I put mine on a month or so ago. It fixed all my clearance issues. I'm running a stock TJ pitman arm currently.

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Yeah chevy still has them on the smaller side, only 160 amp is typical, but the fords use a dual alternator setup with twin 120's. We typically use a 280 amp unit from dc power for the suburbans we do, and they even make us a 270 amp for the subaru foresters we build. Mid feb would put you right there, never know.
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Nice frame swap. You definitely took care of most things while you had it under the knife. That Parts Mike bracket is beef and it will do the trick. I put mine on a month or so ago. It fixed all my clearance issues. I'm running a stock TJ pitman arm currently.
Did you end up getting a longer steering shaft. Its gonna be right on the edge of full extension... I see it really can't come apart once installed... I was thinking about cutting 3" off the old one and welding an extension to the outer shaft of the new one.

Why the TJ pitman? I have a stock YJ pitman for use...

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My rocksliders are only secured to the tub... Last wheeling trip, I came down on a rock, catching the slider and bending it out 1.5"..It was a hard fall...

so I made some body mount tie in straps. They catch the BM bolts and then I welded them to the sliders..

Fabbed my dual battery tray, Thanks to Texas YJ's thread..

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/d...ite-up-889057/

Then Bolted the tub back down....
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Did you end up getting a longer steering shaft. Its gonna be right on the edge of full extension... I see it really can't come apart once installed... I was thinking about cutting 3" off the old one and welding an extension to the outer shaft of the new one.

Why the TJ pitman? I have a stock YJ pitman for use...
Mine is on the edge right now also. I plan on extending it as you are planning to do I just need a welder (which I will have this weekend!). As for the TJ pitman arm, I tried to flatten my stock one about 8 months ago and it didn't go so well. I was running a shorty made of billet steel but I didn't have the turning radius I use to. I finally found the TJ one for a decent price from a JF member.

Good call on welding the body mounts on the frame. Mine are bad. This is 2 trips ago. They are even worse now.


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Mine is on the edge right now also. I plan on extending it as you are planning to do I just need a welder (which I will have this weekend!). As for the TJ pitman arm, I tried to flatten my stock one about 8 months ago and it didn't go so well. I was running a shorty made of billet steel but I didn't have the turning radius I use to. I finally found the TJ one for a decent price from a JF member.

Good call on welding the body mounts on the frame. Mine are bad. This is 2 trips ago. They are even worse now.

Yeah, that sucks. Dumb design. A quick fix, sort of..Once you get all the BM bolts loose and tub jacked up and a BFH and then a few minutes welding..

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Productive day...

Got the exhaust back in and hung... Had to modify the hangers etc and shorten the tail pipe, where is exits the muffler, the hump was hitting the frame.. Moved the whole tail pipe forward an inch...

Also got the Marquis MC installed, brake lines connected and bleed. One of my speed bleeders was not working so I had to do the driver rear the old fashion way.. I can already feel the extra resistance/push with the peddle..
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Replaced the heater core hoses with new...

Also got the steering together. With the steering box relocator, the steering shaft was at the edge of max extension... Once installed it would probably be fine but I lengthened the outer shaft by 3" just for the hell of it... Still had the old shaft for doner part...

Also bleed the steering fluid and connected the Rustys drag link back up..

BTW, its a Durango box, if you missed it..
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Started the day flexing her out so I could order new shocks... Order placed for some bilstien 5100's x4

Radiator and installed tarus fan and volvo relay

started some wiring.

finished the nose clip

Very productive day..

Had a close call as I was cleaning up.....Reached into the garage beer fridge, and they were almost frozen...Slush beer. I had to turn the cooling to low...Crisis adverted
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