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Unread 12-04-2012, 02:59 PM   #31
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If that rear shock mount is finished, you might want to reconsider it. You've got more twisting leverage and stress with that design than can possibly last.

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Unread 12-04-2012, 04:46 PM   #32
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If that rear shock mount is finished, you might want to reconsider it. You've got more twisting leverage and stress with that design than can possibly last.
I agree. The force point is pretty far inward, so the forces are not all up/down as you would expect. It will probably work, since the forces are shocked obviously, not sharp.

That thinking is why the base of the shock bolt of my setup does not stick out away from the frame much at all, less than 1/2". (Sorry for the negative comments, but it is one of the side effects of posting a photo... )
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Unread 12-05-2012, 12:01 PM   #33
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I agree. The force point is pretty far inward, so the forces are not all up/down as you would expect. It will probably work, since the forces are shocked obviously, not sharp.

That thinking is why the base of the shock bolt of my setup does not stick out away from the frame much at all, less than 1/2". (Sorry for the negative comments, but it is one of the side effects of posting a photo... )
Not sure how you figure... The location matches the factory mount except 1 3/4" taller and 1" forward of the factory location. The upper bolt location is 1 1/2" inward from the frame as the factory mount was, so laterally its the same .

If you recall the MORE brackets only get bolted to the stock location w/ a single nut, and in that application they are substaintially more inward, and there is nothing securing the bottom, just a pin to prevent rotation..

EDIT: Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the comments pos and neg... I just don't see 3/8 steel gusseted mounts in a similiar to factory set up twisting
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Unread 12-06-2012, 04:30 PM   #34
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Busy day...

Picked up an 2T engine hoist for $100 bucks, new condition.

My rear bumper frame tie ins from Bezerk arrived so I got them welded in..
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Unread 12-06-2012, 04:32 PM   #35
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Started the tub/body tear down..
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Unread 12-06-2012, 04:36 PM   #36
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Screech.......Put on the brakes... So I was told this was a 4.0 frame... It wasn't until I drove 2 hrs that I was told it was a 2.5, converted to a Chevy and back to a 4.0. It last had a 4.0 under the hood... Well now that I can see my engine pylon mounts clearly, the new frame pylons are over an 1" to 1 1/2" off!!! Looks like I'll be cutting the pylons off.... Just ordered new frame pylons from Mopar parts!
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Unread 12-06-2012, 08:02 PM   #37
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I forgot. I was lucky to have a buddy help me, and he had a car hoist, which easily held the tub while we did the rest. My swap took one 2.5 day weekend. It was really nice to get new fuel and brake lines, even some wiring replaced, not just a new frame.
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Unread 12-06-2012, 08:19 PM   #38
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I forgot. I was lucky to have a buddy help me, and he had a car hoist, which easily held the tub while we did the rest. My swap took one 2.5 day weekend. It was really nice to get new fuel and brake lines, even some wiring replaced, not just a new frame.
The brake line on my old frame are less than a year, the fuel line from the new frame are pristine... And I'm going to do a major wiring clean up as I put it all back together...as well as the following

durango sterring box and probably a new steering shaft
marquis master cylinder w/ a grand cherokee all disk proportionig valve
New shocks x 4 (due to the longer shock mounts) Bilstens 5100 maybe. Open to sugestions
Going to make a dual battery tray
135 amp alt. Already have a GC one.
Electric fan (ford taurus).
Parts mike Rotor kit (drive shaft brake)
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Unread 12-07-2012, 07:49 AM   #39
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Subscribed!! I'll be doing a rebuild/ motor swap (v-8)/ everything upgrade lol at some point. This will help me get my frame squared away!
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Unread 12-07-2012, 09:04 AM   #40
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What type of welder are you using... those are nice looking welds.
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Unread 12-07-2012, 11:13 AM   #41
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What type of welder are you using... those are nice looking welds.
Welders don't make good welds, welders do.
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Unread 12-07-2012, 01:00 PM   #42
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What type of welder are you using... those are nice looking welds.
Its a Homedepot Lincoln 110V mig. It has the gas option but I just use flux core wire. One of these days I'll hook up the gas..

Best $350 spent... You can do up to 1/4" with practice...
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Unread 12-07-2012, 03:11 PM   #43
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Bad news on the Frame to engine pylons... No longer available..

Looks like I'll be cutting the ones off my old frame and rewelding them to the new... ARGH

Good news: my Eastwood internal frame paint came....Oh yeah can't use it till I'm done welding. DOH.
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Unread 12-07-2012, 03:14 PM   #44
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Removed the tub...By myself.... Sorta sucked. My driveway is sloped too...
Only scratched the tailgate. Forgot one airhose in the process too, but made frequent checks as the tub came up....

I will definately want a few more hands to put it back on...
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Unread 12-07-2012, 03:28 PM   #45
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Dang that looks like fun!! Last time I took tub off we had a forklift made it real nice!!!
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