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Unread 04-10-2010, 02:25 PM   #1
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Am i doin something wrong

I have everything done on my 8.8, breaks are not working.
I bleed them and the fluid has no air in it.
still no breaks
what am i doin wrong???

I have the WJ breaks in the front are they pulling all the pressure away from them??

Im lost

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Unread 04-10-2010, 02:26 PM   #2
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Not sure about the WJ brakes, but did you make sure the left was on the left and the right was on the right and that they're not upside down? Do you have any leaks anywhere?
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Unread 04-10-2010, 02:30 PM   #3
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never thought to see if they were on the right side hahaha
Ill check right now

no leaks
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Unread 04-10-2010, 02:35 PM   #4
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Well what I was referring to was my banjo being upside down, it was causing mine to leek, but I was mistaken about what had actually happened.

I think you're problem is they're still not bled enough. Make sure you're really bleeding the brakes, and I mean really really bleeding the brakes. The first time I bled them I thought it was all good. I didn't think there was any air in there but it turned out there was. You really have to slam the pedal down, and pump the brakes before you open the bleeder valve.

Btw- If you're in Colorado Springs I can come help
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Unread 04-10-2010, 02:40 PM   #5
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k ill just keep bleeding them i guess

yea im in pueblo but hey its only 45 min. away lol
Thanks though
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Unread 04-10-2010, 03:48 PM   #6
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Ok so it builds up pressure when I pump it alot

but when i let off the pedel it goes to the floor after a second.

Is my master done?? it makes a noise when you let off the pedel?
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Unread 04-10-2010, 04:01 PM   #7
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Yes you want it to go straight to the floor. Are you doing it with 2 people? I had to have my buddy pump them 3-4 times when the valve was closed, then when I opened it he pushed on the pedal with all his might and more bubbles came out.

Where is the noise coming from when you're letting up? Like a sealing off sorta suction noise?
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Unread 04-10-2010, 04:03 PM   #8
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Yea sounds like a seal is bad

sounds like the fluid is moving around

I have my dad helping he is pumping while i open the bleeder

Ive never had this kind of trouble
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Unread 04-10-2010, 04:08 PM   #9
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I would check the master. If you think it's done for, then take a look and maybe a pic. I wish I could drive down to help ya guys out, just a little too far
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Unread 04-10-2010, 04:13 PM   #10
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NO dont even worry Its fine
Thank you though

I think im gonna get a new one
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Unread 04-10-2010, 04:24 PM   #11
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You should be doing it like this:
Bleeding Car Brakes - How To

Make sure whoever is helping you is pushing on the pedal when you open the bleeder, not pumping.
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Unread 04-10-2010, 04:25 PM   #12
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^ Exactly. Make sure he's pumping them, then slamming that sucker to the floor, then you open the valve
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Unread 04-10-2010, 04:37 PM   #13
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You should be doing it like this:
Bleeding Car Brakes - How To

Make sure whoever is helping you is pushing on the pedal when you open the bleeder, not pumping.
yea thats how i have been doin it
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Unread 04-12-2010, 05:45 PM   #14
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K so the problem is still there
Ive been bleeding them for 3 days now nothing but fluid the pedel is hard till I let off, so if i was driving it i would have to pump them to keep presure.

I replaced the master today well actually my dad did since my broken hand wont let me, no chages.
can the proportioning valve be bad???????
Im really lost any help would be awesome
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Unread 04-12-2010, 05:58 PM   #15
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Is it hard when the engine is off ? and when it running is soft? Then you might want to look at the brake booster. or you have the wrong stroke in the peddle.
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