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post #31 of 99 Old 11-24-2008, 10:49 AM
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K, thanks I'll have to look into it, any recomondations? I've seen a few on here that are that way, but it seemed a lil odd to me. I'm a new jeep guy though so wasn't sure. Thanks again.

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You've seen other Jeeps on the forum that don't have shackles in the rear?

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post #33 of 99 Old 11-24-2008, 10:41 PM
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My bad never mind, after a closer look I see what must be oem shackles. These are much smaller than the front and black verses the bigger non painted ones on the front. Since it's all black they blended right in! DAR!! Probably what I thought I was seeing with other pics as well. Is the larger shackels on front just for the added flex?
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post #34 of 99 Old 11-24-2008, 10:45 PM Thread Starter
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Maybe the PO didn't have enough money to get two pair.
Or maybe they were installed to level the Jeep out.

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post #35 of 99 Old 11-25-2008, 02:40 AM
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nice thread. i just thought id share what what i saw while driving down the road one day. a really nice looking lifted yj came off of a side street on rt 1. when i looked a little closer at it i noticed that the shackles had to be close to a foot long from bolt to bolt.
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Your mission now is to hunt down this YJ and take pics of us so we can start a "What Not To Do To Your YJ" thread.

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Brandon, great information. Can you explain what a "greaseable" shackle is, and it's purpose?
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post #38 of 99 Old 12-19-2008, 11:58 PM
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Greaseable shackles will come with bolts that are like this. They'll have a grease fitting at one end and the bolt is specially gun-drilled so that grease passes thru the bolt and exits the bolt in the sleeve area of the bushings.

This allows the sleeves & bushings to "glide" as they rotate within the eye of the leaf springs because of the grease. It also quiets them down and has less friction which allows the suspension to cycle more freely.

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Thanks! So can you put these bolts in any shackles? Or do they have to be specific shackles made for this type of bolt?
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post #40 of 99 Old 12-20-2008, 12:28 AM
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Excellent explanation... I was thinking of going and getting me some shackles soon to compliment my 4" lift that i will be recieving on tuesday. This thread has really helped me consider what size shackles i want. And i love that you put a pic for the greasable shackles. excellent pic with a great explanation.

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As long as the bolt is the right size, yep, you can install 'em in an application that didn't already have the greaseable bolts.

What I like to do prior to assembly is, I grease the leaf spring eye by hand, as well as the bushings and sleeves. This helps to ensure grease is already in areas where it would take time to penetrate and cover the friction areas. I also like to grease my leaf pads and areas where high friction tends to be in the suspension.
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As long as the bolt is the right size, yep, you can install 'em in an application that didn't already have the greaseable bolts.

What I like to do prior to assembly is, I grease the leaf spring eye by hand, as well as the bushings and sleeves. This helps to ensure grease is already in areas where it would take time to penetrate and cover the friction areas. I also like to grease my leaf pads and areas where high friction tends to be in the suspension.

You have a link to a site/supplier of said bolts, to enhance your description?

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post #43 of 99 Old 12-28-2008, 10:15 PM
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i just bought a jeep and the PO has regualr stock shackles on but it came with straight shackels that measure 6in so a 1in lift. Should i just wait til i get a lift to put them on even tho that wont be for a while since i have no money. I know you said the right way to get the lift is a sus. Can i still put on the shackles now or should i just wait for the lift? THanks
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Great thread and info fer us beginners!!!

I just purchased what I understand to possible be Brandon_YJ's last set of shackles on ebay - atleast for awhile maybe - I have since been PM-ing him to death with questions before I actually read all of this great info. Sorry man The last PM that I sent I would like to repeat here since I don't see the answer anywhere and maybe the other noob's can pick up on it as well.

More info on bolts, and Bushings. Sizes, type, and sources of purchase. I understand that they need to be grade 5 or 8 but not sure on the dimentions exactly. I have also located some bushings on ebay from Daystar but I wasn't sure if all bushings are created equal and of the same size?

Any help in this area would be appreciated!!!

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post #45 of 99 Old 01-09-2009, 05:45 AM
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Brandon, Great write up I read it after I did mine, just wanted to point out a couple of oversights in the first section for the front shackle install that would make it a litter clearer for noobs.

--OK, now you should have the shackles off and the bolts removed. In *most* cases the shackle-eye of the spring has curled up towards the spring,(S/B Frame) this is more common than it hanging lower (which happens on old stock or sagged springs).
The installation is pretty straight forward. Start by installing the shackle-frame end of the shackle first. But do not torque it down to specs just yet, just get it on there pretty good, a little side-to-side slop will help get the spring into the shackle easier.
As mentioned before, in most cases the spring has curled up towards the spring,(S/B Frame) This is where the bottle jack comes in to place.

Also wanted to add that a single high lift jack under the bumper will allow you to keep the wheel on the ground and will allow you to increase or decrease space for the shackles by jacking higher or lower (bottle jack may still be necessary)

PS if you edit original I will clear it out in my post to reduce clutter
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