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Unread 05-08-2012, 04:34 PM   #16
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You can test a solenoid....

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Unread 05-09-2012, 07:24 AM   #17
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If you can jumper using the screwdriver trick or use jumper cables to get it going then there is nothing wrong with the starter. Like SuperJ saod, clean the wires going to the starter. There is another trick to see if you have an ignition issue and so you can be under the hood when you are trying to see what is going on with the starter. In the PDC under the hood you have a starter relay. Make sure the Jeep is out of gear. Remove the relay and jumper pin 30 to 87 on the relay and it is just like turning the ignition switch.
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Unread 05-09-2012, 07:27 AM   #18
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Clean all the high current wires to the starter, battery and chasis; that includes the grounds. Clean the connectors on the starter. Also, the battery can read 12Vdc and not be worth a darn. I wouldn't trust Wallmart to properly load test a battery. Like it has been suggest, if you jump it and it starts every time then it is more then likely a bad connection or a bad battery.
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Unread 05-09-2012, 08:51 PM   #19
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do the tests man, i have replaced mine three time now in two weeks and two solenoids and it appears they weren;t entirely the problem. twice, the starter was for sure bad and the parts place said you can't test a solenoid so i think i bought another for nothing but after some more in depth checking, mine seems to be an ignition switch and a neutral safety switch. do the checks the guys tell you, especially the loose wires and cleaning hte connections. wire brushing my connections got mine running the first time i had starter trouble
How do you check the ignition switch and the neutral safety switch. This is my first time having this problem. I have wire brushed my connections though but i didn't help.
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Unread 05-09-2012, 08:54 PM   #20
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If you can jumper using the screwdriver trick or use jumper cables to get it going then there is nothing wrong with the starter. Like SuperJ saod, clean the wires going to the starter. There is another trick to see if you have an ignition issue and so you can be under the hood when you are trying to see what is going on with the starter. In the PDC under the hood you have a starter relay. Make sure the Jeep is out of gear. Remove the relay and jumper pin 30 to 87 on the relay and it is just like turning the ignition switch.
I've heard of the screwdriver trick but I don't know how to do it. Could you tell me? Also I have got it started many times by having it roll down a hill while in 2nd and popping the clutch. Does that mean anything? Thanks for the help!
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Unread 05-09-2012, 09:09 PM   #21
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I got my Jeep started and it was a bad ground at the solenoid. The bolts holding tithe solenoid to the block were not getting a good connection. Once I took them out and cleaned the bolts and holes, my Jeep started right up
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Unread 05-09-2012, 09:39 PM   #22
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I got my Jeep started and it was a bad ground at the solenoid. The bolts holding tithe solenoid to the block were not getting a good connection. Once I took them out and cleaned the bolts and holes, my Jeep started right up
Whats was yours doing before you cleaned them off?
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Unread 05-10-2012, 08:18 AM   #23
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OK, have you jump started it from another car/truck/jeep yet?
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Unread 05-10-2012, 11:51 AM   #24
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I have popped the clutch while rolling down a hill and took it for a drive. The volts stay good the whole time. Also I'm not sure how to jump the starter can you explain a little better?
Sorry I didnt see your post there till just now. The way I prefer is hook jumper cables up to the battery take the other end and hook up the negative to the starter's negative terminal. Then touch the positive to the starters positive terminal. If that doesnt work and you know the battery is good that would mean the starter is bad. If that works shut it back off and go to the starter selinoid. Use a screw drive to bridge the positive from the battery to the positive out to the starter if it works the selenoid is bad if it doesnt the starter is bad. But you have to be %200 sure the battery is good. Hook a multimetter to the battery set to volts. IIRC 12.6 means it has a full charge and all cells are putting out power. Or before you crawl under there use the jumper cables to try to jump start it from another car. Poping the clutch while rolling takes the starter and starting circut out of the equation. You do not want to do that you want to test different parts of the starting circut to find out where the breakdown is.
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Unread 05-11-2012, 11:31 AM   #25
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Are you having any luck? Did you use the jumper cables and jumper power directly to the starter.
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And mine would turn on the lights and radio but nothing as far as starting. No click, no nothing
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Unread 05-11-2012, 10:35 PM   #27
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I went to autozone today and got a new starter. I went home and put it in. THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED! I thought maybe it didn't have much power because it has been sitting for about two weeks. So I stuck it on the charger for about 3-4 hours and came back, same thing is happening. Tomorrow I am going to put the battery from the truck in it to see if that is the problem. I had the battery tested before I did any of this and Walmart said it was fine. Any more suggestions?
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Unread 05-11-2012, 11:40 PM   #28
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Replace your battery and make sure you tighten down that negative terminal. In the video you just set it on the post and sometimes that doesn't let enough current pass through the cables.
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Unread 05-12-2012, 06:45 AM   #29
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I wouldn't trust walmart eithier
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Unread 05-12-2012, 11:56 PM   #30
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I got the volt meter out today and did many tests. First I tested the battery and the starter with out turning on the jeep. Both the starter and battery read 12.7 volts. I tried to turn the Jeep on and still the same clicking, even after putting in the new starter. I then tested the starter's volts while getting power during ignition. I took the positive on the starter off, then hook the volt meter up to the positive and grounded the negative to the case of the starter like the manual recommended. I started the Jeep and the starter's volts dropped to 11.3 volts. The manual for the starter says that at minimum it requires 12.1 volts. Then i tested the battery during ignition and it dropped to about 12.3 volts but then went back up to 12.7 volts. So I am guessing the problem is the connection going down from the positive on the battery to the positive on the starter. The plugs that go around the battery terminals are pretty beat up and I think this is the problem. Below are a couple of pictures of the terminals, like I said they look pretty bad. Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated and thank you to everyone that is helping me on this!
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