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WOKNROX 01-21-2013 08:22 PM

5 speed stick to 4 speed auto
 
I have a 91 Yj with an ax-15 stick and want to convert it to a AW-4 auto out of a 92 Xj ..
who's done it?
Any advice appreciated
thanx in advance!

Mark05059 01-21-2013 08:46 PM

use the search.. there are alot of people here that have done it...

Jansar 01-22-2013 08:49 AM

what ive heard that the AW4 transmission wont fit into wrangler without movin the engine more forward in the engineroom, and lowerin the transmission and puttin some 2degree shift on the rearaxle towards the transfergear...and at that point rear driveshaft(cvjoint) with sye-kit might turn without "grinding".
thats what i saw on one such project.
ie, the aw4 is much longer gearbox than the tf909 that is originally in wrangler yj

dillonjm 01-22-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jansar (Post 14832190)
what ive heard that the AW4 transmission wont fit into wrangler without movin the engine more forward in the engineroom, and lowerin the transmission and puttin some 2degree shift on the rearaxle towards the transfergear...and at that point rear driveshaft(cvjoint) with sye-kit might turn without "grinding".
thats what i saw on one such project.
ie, the aw4 is much longer gearbox than the tf909 that is originally in wrangler yj

Its only about an inch longer than the ax-15 so your info isn't quite right.

I did this swap, most tedious part is wiring. The rest is basic mechanic and fab work.

WOKNROX 01-22-2013 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dillonjm (Post 14832989)
Its only about an inch longer than the ax-15 so your info isn't quite right.

I did this swap, most tedious part is wiring. The rest is basic mechanic and fab work.

Yeah that's what I figured ...the wiring part is where I'm needing the info...any help on that would be greatly appreciated ...
Thanx

dillonjm 01-22-2013 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOKNROX (Post 14833185)
Yeah that's what I figured ...the wiring part is where I'm needing the info...any help on that would be greatly appreciated ...
Thanx

You wiring will be different than what I did due to yours being an OBDI era AW4 and mine was a RENIX (pre 91).

I'll see if I can't find some info on OBDI wiring, but I know there are a couple guys who have done that swap specifically that I'm sure will chime in.

EDIT:
Here is some generic wiring stuff I have, don't assume my hand drawn connector list will work with your transmission's control module because I used a RENIX era one.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/m...i-aw4-1396214/

Also, "meangreeny" helped me out tremendously and IIRC he did an OBDI swap.

dillonjm 01-22-2013 11:54 AM

Also, more info here. You'll have to sort through what you want to use since this was an OBDII swap:
http://www.moab4x4outpost.com/F_buil...j_trans01.html

And a RENIX version swap:
http://www.stu-offroad.com/engine/aw-4b/aw-4b-1.htm

These will give you an idea, but like I said, a couple of the pins for the wiring will be different.

WOKNROX 01-22-2013 12:45 PM

Hey thanx alot dillonjm...
I really appreciate the info and u taking the time to post it up for me...
thanx again ..

Jansar 01-23-2013 08:18 PM

ok, thats only what i saw and heard about the project they did here, the rear driveshafts angle went so steep that it started...damn dunno all the tech words in english, well started grinding against the joints specially when flexin the suspension, ie the driveshaft didnt rotate freely...
and that was with 3inch lift, So it may not prove difficulties in stock suspension...

Hghgrad 01-23-2013 08:56 PM

I'm in the middle of this swap on my 94 right now. Plenty of people have done this. Looks like my rear shaft will fit just fine, but my front driveshaft is going to be too short.


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