[quote=Siva283;12129445]You can join Tim. I made it clear where I got my info and what my opinion was. You also do not know what I do and don't have experience with.Yes I do, Your'e an open book and dont know it Again I say until you can link to reputable sources your opinion is not fact.When it comes to modifying Jeeps the most reputable sources in existance are members here. The difference is I have admitted this is my opinion the whole time unlike some that think its a fact because they said it. Put up or shut up. You wanna give an opinion fine you Wanna give fact fine but be ready to back it up. Unless you have reputable proof do not try to put down other people.Not putting you down but you dont know good advice when you hear it, You dont have the knowledge base to know the differance, We do, and can instantly recognize that you dont.[/quote]
So one more piece of advice, You cant learn anything with your mouth open [/
I put a posi lock in my jeep two weeks ago. I did not drill any holes in the firewall, just used the rubber that was there, and had a lot of extra room. The seal is tight, and it don’t leek. I just used it this afternoon” lot of rain here and a high water road sign” and it performed flawlessly. This is my first jeep, and I did not feel comfortable changing axels, so I paid $109.00 for a new alloy system. It’s simple and works well for me. I hope this can help someone else make a wise decision.
I just hope you can see the three clips in there. It's locked and not going anywhere.
Pictures speak louder than words
Is there one up against the fork? My only concern with that setup would be still having that in there, I've had a cracked fork, and one that just wore out. Though I guess it would be less likely to fail if it wasn't moving. Good idea though, I was going to try something similar with mine when it failed. Decided to just run it without 4wd for a while instead though since it went out in the spring.
1992 YJ Wrangler 4.0L, NV3550, 2.5" suspension lift, 32" BFG M/Ts, lots of other cool stuff
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If I had to do it again, I would have stayed with vac. Put posi on a few years ago. Worked great 90% of the time. But that 10% fail rate always hit at the worst possible time. Would not do it again, would stay vac or fully engaged.
I am also looking at the posi-lok for my 95 YJ Rio Grande which is completely stock down to the wheels, carpet and seats.
Question is: If I am going to continue using the stock axle, why wouldn't the posi-lok be a good option other than possible contamination through the cable hole? Can I change it back to stock easily if I don't like it?
The above mentioned axle swap/shaft swaps sound good but a little above my wrenching ability.
(apologies to the OP for jackin his thread)
ANTICANMAN: would you explain the snap-ring mod a little more thoroughly??
The axle shaft swap is pretty easy, but if you're looking to get rid of the vacuum system, both locking it in with a clip, or the posi-lock would work. I wouldn't worry too much about it leaking, if you plan on using your jeep as a boat, there are plenty of other things that you'd have to address first.
1992 YJ Wrangler 4.0L, NV3550, 2.5" suspension lift, 32" BFG M/Ts, lots of other cool stuff
RED JEEP CLUB MEMBER #494
Or you can spend 15 minutes and $1.36 for an e clip and lock the fork over permanently. Add some rtv to the gasket and Presto! Problem solved for now.
That was my thought exactly. I have done this many times for people. You don't have to buy a clip you just remove the outside one move the fork and collar over, and put the clip back in place to hole it there for good.
4x4 works everytime you pull the stick. No more wondering if it's gonna work
thanks for the opinions guys, keep em coming if anyone else has an idea or do i dare say an OPINION
looks like i got some head scratching to do.
I've had the original posilok for years. Has always worked great. I installed it to 86 the vac stuff. Back then I got misinformation about the TJ/XJ shaft swaps, so that was one of the reasons I went with it. But there are a few things to ponder to see if its right for your set up.
With a lunchbox locker (which I am running) you can still have power to the driver side even when disconnected. This requires front dline balancing. (not a big deal, good to do anyway IMO) In 4x4, it will steer better when not engaged... again, power only to driver side. Of course, all this requires one to reach down and engage/disengage if one wants to go back and forth. I'm usually either in or out.
Going with TJ or XJ shafts is very similar to each other, 'cept for one area. If you're looking to eventully go with bigger meats, i.e., 35's or bigger, then one thing to consider is strength. IIRC, salvage yard XJ shafts can only be had with the older x297 joints. If you go with newer TJ shafts, you can get the stronger x760 joints. And btw, if I'm not wrong, I also believe some older TJ still had the 297s. '99 and older IIRC. So best to double check.
Running full time up front IMO is no big deal. Obviously TJs and XJs have no choise. It just boils down to what you want. And possibly price.
If I were starting all over, I'd likely swap in a newer TJ shaft and go with a selectable up front (ARB, ect.) instead of a lunchbox or other auto locker.
One other thought... if you're looking to upgrade bigger tires and a locker and are considering the one piece shaft to achieve this, the driver short side will also need to be addressed.
hope that helps.
'92 YJ, 4.0, 5sp, 8.8, Tera 4-1, SYE, BDS 5" on 35's. 4.56 locked F&R. <><
'05 LJR, 6" long arm lift, 5.13's w/37 MTR's.
Proof here.... It's called a CAD = Central Axle Disconnect
#2 The OP NEVER asked about a homebrew posilock system yet you jumped right in and said he'd have to drill a hole. NOT TRUE = BAD INFO Then you went back in the next post and talked about the price for the unit he linked to, and again said he would have to drill a hole, and AGAIN NOT TRUE = BAD INFO
#3 You talk about water/mud etc. being able to get in and then later talk about boats and what not. The Jeep is not a boat, based on your logic the lube filler holes on the diffs, the stock vacuum system, the breather hoses, etc would all allow water/mud etc. to access the diffs. So once again Possible but not likely, hence why I originally said if someone were completely wreckless = BAD INFO
Have you actually looked at the end of the axle shaft at the C/knuckle? If not you should check it out because there's a big gaping hole at the end of the housing covered by a piece of clip together plastic, what do you think can't get in there that might seep through a threaded and sealed fitting on the CAD housing.
#4 You said he'd then have to worry about the cable catching on things. I simply pointed out that you would also have to worry about the vac. system, breathers, etc. So once more, you have no idea WTF you're talking about but spouting advice. Again BAD INFO
#5 I have actual experience with these things, I know for fact WTF I'm talking about. I don't need manufacturer studies to show that. Certainly somethings will fail, everything in fact at some point, but you've provided nothing to support your I heard one time from a friends cousin type BS. Perhaps you can provide studies to support what you've said, until then they're simply your uninformed and wrong opinion.
Once more, I was NOT trying to be an *** toward you, I was trying to provide the OP with FACTUAL real world info. Not simply an opinion or a second hand story. Had he asked whether he should do the posi lock or TJ/XJ shafts, I would have offered an opinion and as surprising as it may sound to you, mine would've agreed with yours.
Now, can we move on?
You can move on all you want I am done with this thread I was nice to everyone except you and the other one or two people that think their opinion is fact. You quoted where I said cache = vacuum telling me I am wrong. I was correcting a word error my phone made because of predictive text and I was correct the cad is guess what run by a VAC system which many agree is good and works if properly maintained if you run a posi lock homebrew or otherwise you add another hole and another point of failure. And yes they can and some do leak for a myriad of reasons. Yes there no seal on the end of the axle but there is one before the disconnect. If you go by your theory there would be no need to seal where the posi lock enters the axle. As I said get some midol and vagisil and for those saying I am not nice to anyone you better reread as I stated I was nice to everyone until those few who think whatever they say is right and what others say is wrong are the only ones I was not nice to once they started being ignorant towards me. We are all entitled to our opinions which I gave and yes I have seen posi locks leak. The vent lines and such are higher up and necessary a posi lock is not I even notice just about everyone has the solid axle on this thread. The true ignorant people here are the ones passing off opinion as fact. Lots of people have had luck and swear by the posi locks and lots of people have had bad experience. If your anal about points of failure unnecessary holes and contamination getting in like I am you would put another axle seal right behind that plastic price like I did. I gave my opinion and stated my reasons take it or leave it I do not care its your rig not mine. If anyone wants to ask ne anything pm me I will not be back here. JUST REMEMBER EVERYTHING YOU READ HERE IS OPINIONS FROM PEOPLE. Just like everyone has one. I am done having a battle of wits with the 2 or 3 people in here that obviously are not to bright and unarmed for said battle of wits. Here is the one truth you will read here that IS FACT everything you read here is OPINION and PERSONAL EXPERIENCES and just because one person had a good experience does not mean everyone will have a god experience and you may or may not. So remember its all opinions and do your research and weigh the pro's and cons. Do not let anyone here tell you that what they are saying is fact without links to back it up. Personal experience is opinion. Just ask people with RC lifts some had bad experience and some good that's how it will be with every opinion here. Good Bye hope you don't end up with damage from people passing off opinion is fact especially since Atleast two of these people that say I am wrong still have they very thing I suggested and am a proponent of. Don't believe the VAC system is good talk to jeeperdon he agrees and can explain it better he is very experienced and people go to him for help almost as much as mad max from what I see. I think they may be in the top 5 most popular people on here and definitely have knowledge beyond most people on this forum and it just so happens I have agreed with almost all their opinions. So go ahead now timatoe and friends go after the guy that is no longer participating in this anymore. Go ahead and tell the pot people of this thread that your opinion is fact and everyone else is worthless. Go ahead and try to say I give bad info which is not possible since I va e my opinion just like I said the whole time. Funny how none of the three muskateers here said the word opinion and instead said it like its a fact. You three are now set on ignore thankfully I won't even see you horrid dribble that you try to pass off as fact. So sit on it and rotate
1995 YJ. 2 inch BDS Spring lift. 1 inch shackle lift. 1.25 inch JKS Body Lift 33x12.5x15's. Engo 10,000 pound winch.
[QUOTE=Magnum;14117863] I gave the Jeep the required offering of $$, sweat, and blood, and everything works fine now. -- Jim[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ldso;16498409]. It started with a $200 axle, and a few thousand dollars later I was done :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Luuca;16122017]diagnose the real issue before you start going all Obama on it - spending mad cash you'll need for other important things.
Ask me how I know...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Overhead;17658665]this is also my second set of RC springs this year. I'd rather spend the money again and get something that will last.[/QUOTE]
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