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Unread 08-17-2011, 10:25 AM   #1
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4cyl. that bad????

hi fellas, im thinking of picking up a 95 wrangler s. its bone stock. im wanting to use it for the weekend very mild trail. i wanna put a small lift and install some black wheels i have with bfg 31/10.50/15's. i live in vegas so its all sand and some small rocky trails. nothing wild at all. ive been reading posts about the 4 cylinder. are they really that bad or are members here going on viscious trails where alot of power is needed. is the 4 cylinder pretty capable for a newbie? what 4 cylinder jeeps do other members have? whats the lift , the biggest tire size you can use, and maybe some photos of your jeep, and of the places you wheel with your 4 banger. i know people will get on here and say to get a bigger motor, but this is whats available at a very good price. id like to know what people are doing with their little motors and how much trouble you can get into on the trail and still make it out. any help is useful, so thank you in advance

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1995 jeep grand cherokee...5.2 liter...2 inch spacers...33x12.50x15 mud tires...i need smaller tires, these muds ride too rough
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Unread 08-17-2011, 10:30 AM   #2
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With the 4 banger it is all about gear ratio. Stick with small tires and you will be ok. Highway driving well lets say don't be in a hurry.
If you want more performance there is little to be done with the 2.5l motor so regear is pretty much the only real game in town.
Dans driveline is the place to go if you need some gear work done.

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Unread 08-17-2011, 10:34 AM   #3
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Unread 08-17-2011, 10:38 AM   #4
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My buddy has a 99' 4 banger and he's running a 3 in lift with bfg m/t 35's. He says it's fine but I think that's cause he doesn't wanna admit it's a little weak. He gets stuck in mud sometimes and it seems like part of it is cause he's running out of power. I have to tow him out occasionally. It's also slow to accelerate. But I think most of this is because he is running 35's on a 4 cyl and his motor is pretty shot from wheeling it a lot.
IMO, I would say go for it since you plan on keeping your lift and tires pretty small. You can also use the better gas mileage if you're using it as a DD
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Unread 08-17-2011, 10:39 AM   #5
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i dont care at all about the freeway, just that it can get thru the trails and sand. speed is not an issue with me. if i were to trailer it to the beach, it would be just fine right? as long as i air it down?
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1995 jeep grand cherokee...5.2 liter...2 inch spacers...33x12.50x15 mud tires...i need smaller tires, these muds ride too rough
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oh, i wont be going thru any mud. there is none here. lol
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1995 jeep grand cherokee...5.2 liter...2 inch spacers...33x12.50x15 mud tires...i need smaller tires, these muds ride too rough
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Unread 08-17-2011, 10:42 AM   #7
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We have a 95 all stock and running bfg 31/10.50/15's 4 banger . we love it hwy 60ish mph , 4 banger are better on gas but.... slower not a problem for us....
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With the 4 banger it is all about gear ratio. Stick with small tires and you will be ok. Highway driving well lets say don't be in a hurry.
If you want more performance there is little to be done with the 2.5l motor so regear is pretty much the only real game in town.
Dans driveline is the place to go if you need some gear work done.

Dwayne
4.7Stroker hit the nail right on the head ! Both of my Jeeps were 4bangers, There are a few perfromance parts out there but not many. Mopar had a Purple Cam, Clifford performance has some cam shafts also.

Most people do 19lb ford injectors, eletric fan conversion, 4.0L throttle body and spacer , and bore the intake to match the throttlebody MSD ignition and coil, with a header and decent catback you'll see 25-35hp and it will wake up the 4cyl. if you want to run 31's just leave the factory gearing if you go bigger to 33's you'll want 4.88's for 35's 5:13's, 37's 5.38's (axle swap required for gearing to 5.13 & lower)



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Unread 08-17-2011, 10:45 AM   #9
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I run my '00 4 banger in the sand all the time w/ 33x10.50's, the key is to use 4 lo with 2nd and 3rd gear to keep the wheel speed up enough...you'd be surprised how nice it is to have less weight on the tires. With 31x10.5's I don't even think I'd worry about regearing unless you find you need to later down the road.

That being said I'm currently building a '99 4.0 TJ to replace my current one cuz I can't stand the 4 banger at highway speed
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Unread 08-17-2011, 10:46 AM   #10
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thank you to everybody and your info.....special thanks to tom95! great pics! thats the confirmation i needed. i wont be doing rocks like you so i should be just fine. thank you very much!
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Here's my 95 2.5l: 33" hankook dynapro's 2" shackles 2"body stock gears.. little slow on take off but she.gets the job done!! Plan on throwing some 4.88's in and should be good to go!

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Unread 08-17-2011, 10:55 AM   #12
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great pics!
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Unread 08-17-2011, 11:04 AM   #14
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I love my 4 angry squirrels. The 4-banger is just fine for off-road, especially if you gear it. Mine has 31/10.5/15 BFG's with the stock 4.10 axle gears. Everything else is stock. Its my daily driver. It takes a *long* time (several minutes) to get up to speed on the highway but for everything else its just fine. The 4-banger has a reputation for being indestructible, lots of guys here have like 200k or 300k miles. I put a real good tune-up on mine and it gets about 18 MPG on the highway, 16 around town. With the 31's, it really likes 4.56 gears but I don't have the money for that. Also, a front locker would be yer best friend.
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Unread 08-17-2011, 11:07 AM   #15
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im glad for everybodys help! im excited now. the four squirrels should do me just fine
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