4" Rough Country lift install - JeepForum.com
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 09:56 AM Thread Starter
coshooter
Registered User
2009 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 58
4" Rough Country lift install

Hey all! I should be getting my 4" RC lift kit tomorrow and am going to start installing it tomorrow but have a few questions I could not find the answers to and would appreciate some help. I'm pretty mechanical but have never done anything like this before.

I read in one post that RC is supplying bolts with the kits now because people were having trouble with the sleves fitting the stock bolts. Does anyone know if these are all the spring eye bolts ( 8 ) they are supplying? I've PB'd everything, but am planning on cutting the stock bolts unless they come out really easy to save time.

What kind of grease should I lube the new bushings with and what part of the bushing needs to be lubed before I install everything? ANything else need greased?

Should I use some locktite on all the nuts?

When I get finished, will I need to get an alignment done or will that just depend on how it drives after everything goes together?

Thanks a lot for any answers you might be able to provide!

-Matt

coshooter is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 10:06 AM
tuckinauster
Registered User
 
tuckinauster's Avatar
2001 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Oshkosh, WI
Posts: 1,491
When I got the new kit it didn't come with new hardware, but that may have changed since then. I'd confirm that with Rough Country on the forum here.

I used white lithium grease to lube everything..

Locktite wouldn't be a bad idea on some of the bolts, especially the shackle bolts. I would recommend torquing them to around 50ft/lbs.

You shouldn't need an alignment, but it wouldn't hurt to at least get it checked. See how it drives and you should be able to make that call.

Edit: Here's my write up on the kit.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Quote:
Originally Posted by P.J. O'rouke
"The Jeep is a manly device. And a womanly device. An American device. Itís a fitting instrument to transport the free people of a free nation with the respect to which we are entitled and the dignity that we deserve."
tuckinauster is offline  
post #3 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 10:14 AM Thread Starter
coshooter
Registered User
2009 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 58
Thanks Tuck, your writeup is already printed out and sitting on the front seat of the Jeep for a reference!
coshooter is offline  
 
post #4 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 10:17 AM
usmcestep
Registered User
2005 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kapolei
Posts: 73
Yes white lithium grease for everything.

Be ready to grind a lot of bolts as well unless PB does its job.

Also if it doesn't come with the hardware (mine didn't), be ready to make a couple trips to Lowe's for the bolts and stuff.

Also check your brake lines and stuff when you are doing the lift because when I put my front lift on the brake lines busted and that sucked.

Also, I wouldn't even mess with the swaybar and stuff, I just disconnected mine and it is still off and everything works well.

Other than that just be prepared to get really mad at some things....

05 TJ RME 4.0
3" Zone 2" BL
35x12.50 procomp xterrains
Rear smittybilt bumper with swingout tire carrier

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
usmcestep is offline  
post #5 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 10:20 AM
tuckinauster
Registered User
 
tuckinauster's Avatar
2001 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Oshkosh, WI
Posts: 1,491
Quote:
Originally Posted by coshooter View Post
Thanks Tuck, your writeup is already printed out and sitting on the front seat of the Jeep for a reference!
Cool, I'm glad its getting put to use. Happy wrenching


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Quote:
Originally Posted by P.J. O'rouke
"The Jeep is a manly device. And a womanly device. An American device. Itís a fitting instrument to transport the free people of a free nation with the respect to which we are entitled and the dignity that we deserve."
tuckinauster is offline  
post #6 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 10:28 AM
sebastian22
Registered User
1995 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 2,038
Most people hit a wall when it comes down to removing the spring hanger bolts. Mine came off with a couple good hits from my BFH.

This is a good time to decide if you want to get rid of the trackbars. If so you can skip a couple steps. Also a good time to upgrade to a good set of greasable boomerang shackles. If not I would at least change the bushings on the frame.

95 Black YJ
sebastian22 is offline  
post #7 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 10:28 AM Thread Starter
coshooter
Registered User
2009 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by usmcestep View Post
Yes white lithium grease for everything.


Also, I wouldn't even mess with the swaybar and stuff, I just disconnected mine and it is still off and everything works well.

....
What's the reasoning behind not reconnecting the swaybar and stuff (is "stuff" the trackbar?)?
coshooter is offline  
post #8 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 10:32 AM
tuckinauster
Registered User
 
tuckinauster's Avatar
2001 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Oshkosh, WI
Posts: 1,491
Quote:
Originally Posted by coshooter View Post
What's the reasoning behind not reconnecting the swaybar and stuff (is "stuff" the trackbar?)?
A better ride and more flex... Without the swaybar you may notice a little more body roll, but its easy to get used to. It's definitely worth it IMO


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


Quote:
Originally Posted by P.J. O'rouke
"The Jeep is a manly device. And a womanly device. An American device. Itís a fitting instrument to transport the free people of a free nation with the respect to which we are entitled and the dignity that we deserve."
tuckinauster is offline  
post #9 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 10:47 AM Thread Starter
coshooter
Registered User
2009 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 58
Okay, so is it both the swaybar (only one is in the front right?) and trackbars (front and rear) that you guys are talking about, or just the swaybar?

-Matt
coshooter is offline  
post #10 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 10:49 AM
durangoyj
Registered User
2006 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Durango
Posts: 330
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by coshooter View Post
What's the reasoning behind not reconnecting the swaybar and stuff (is "stuff" the trackbar?)?
This has been debated here and it's up to personal preference. I disconnected mine and haven't noticed anything too major. I know it improves flex greatly. On thing to look for is a different feel in the steering, I noticed when I was coming up to a moderatly sharp turn and going about 40 MPH, I had to turn the wheel harder before I got a response. It caused me to pucker up a little the first time it happened but now that I expect it, it's not a big deal.

[]|||||||[]

Colorado Jeep Club Member # 176

\m/(..)\m/ "Rock on!"
durangoyj is offline  
post #11 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 11:00 AM Thread Starter
coshooter
Registered User
2009 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 58
Quote:
Originally Posted by coshooter View Post
I read in one post that RC is supplying bolts with the kits now because people were having trouble with the sleves fitting the stock bolts. Does anyone know if these are all the spring eye bolts ( 8 ) they are supplying? I've PB'd everything, but am planning on cutting the stock bolts unless they come out really easy to save time.
Nevermind on the RC hardware question, just heard from Ryan @ RC and he said that the spring to shackle bolts are the ones they include but wasn't sure about the spring to frame bolts. Ryan has been great to deal with at RC! Now I'll just have to buy the four 4 1/2" x 9/16 grade 8 bolts since I'll probably cut them all out.

-Matt
coshooter is offline  
post #12 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 11:08 AM
Project89YJ
Registered User
1989 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Longview
Posts: 81
Mine didnt come with spring/shackle bolts, took lots of kroil, a torch, a BFH and even an air hammer to get some of them out. Bought a pitman arm pulled at auto zone for $20 (worth every penny too). I used anti seize on everything going back together. The torque's are called out in the instructions, do your final torques with weight on wheels and be sure to retorque everything after you drive it for a while. When I lower the transfer case the frame nuts were rusted out. I drilled up though the frame and put long 1/2" bolts with a nut and washer on top of the frame rail. one more thing be sure to have a good #55 torx.
Project89YJ is offline  
post #13 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 12:59 PM Thread Starter
coshooter
Registered User
2009 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 58
Thanks for all the info guys, I appreciate the input. One more question:

In the interest of saving time I want to go ahead and start pulling hardware off the Jeep now before I actually do the install ( I won't be driving it uther than to pull it into the garage to work on it). Is it okay to remove the following items now: Shocks, track bars (permanently), steering damper (new one comming), and sway bar links?

Thanks,
Matt
coshooter is offline  
post #14 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 01:48 PM
durangoyj
Registered User
2006 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Durango
Posts: 330
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by coshooter View Post
Thanks for all the info guys, I appreciate the input. One more question:

In the interest of saving time I want to go ahead and start pulling hardware off the Jeep now before I actually do the install ( I won't be driving it uther than to pull it into the garage to work on it). Is it okay to remove the following items now: Shocks, track bars (permanently), steering damper (new one comming), and sway bar links?

Thanks,
Matt
Yes to all. Out of that list, shocks are the only thing you really need to drive it on the road. You don't even have to have them if you want to limp down to the mechanics or something but I wouldn't drive it around regularly without shocks.

[]|||||||[]

Colorado Jeep Club Member # 176

\m/(..)\m/ "Rock on!"
durangoyj is offline  
post #15 of 31 Old 06-18-2008, 01:50 PM
sebastian22
Registered User
1995 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 2,038
that shouldn't be a problem. some would even say you could drive without any of those things. haha.

95 Black YJ
sebastian22 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Jeep Forums Replies Last Post
Rough Country 4" lift Install advice... guidoverduci TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 2 09-20-2009 10:21 PM
Rough Country 1.5" Lift Install! A2SuperCrew TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 4 04-11-2009 07:14 PM
need help with 2.5" Rough Country lift install nycrd JK Wrangler Technical Forum 1 02-19-2009 08:37 AM
2.5" Rough Country Lift Install + BL jim_bert TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 24 09-02-2008 06:48 PM
4" rough country lift install jeepin man99 YJ Wrangler Technical Forum 15 12-19-2006 10:38 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome