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Unread 04-03-2013, 09:32 PM   #31
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I've an Ax5 that was beaten on and thrashed by one of the PO's, still works fine with 107K miles on the odometer. No grinding, no sticking, nothing, just gotta go to 1st before reverse

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Unread 04-05-2013, 02:44 PM   #32
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I love my 2.5, also lets be clear I have a 4.0 check out my pictures, boys yaw are all playing a 16 year old mentality, The 2.5 is more than adequate for 33 inch tires with working order parts, and if you are rolling a lifted jeep in hilly terrain at 75 miles and hour, BYE

its all about the what your satisfied with, if the 2.5 isn't enough engine then snatch it out but don't put some overhyped piece of weight like a 4.0 in it stick a real engine in there something that can smoke 37s and pull a dump truck, I say you need to go and get a LS1,3 and buy every gear large axle, aftermarket part, a super chip.

I wonder how many folks on here have tried all these wizardly improvements and tormented over another 40 hp. Because someone said that x axle is horrible or x motor is no good or X transmission will break.

I have turned a many a wrench and will probably do so again tomorrow. I say have it but when you decide to ditch the 2.5, then don't get a 4.0 get a Cummins cause they are the boss. I'm not cause in the end my 2.5 will take me any where your 4.0, will. When the end of the earth comes only Cockroaches and 2.5l jeeps will be left.
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Unread 04-05-2013, 04:22 PM   #33
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I love my 2.5, also lets be clear I have a 4.0 check out my pictures, boys yaw are all playing a 16 year old mentality, The 2.5 is more than adequate for 33 inch tires with working order parts, and if you are rolling a lifted jeep in hilly terrain at 75 miles and hour, BYE
The 2.5L does just fine around town, the 4.0 has more power to carry the Jeep up through hills. Having a good power/weight ratio around here is important, most of the highways are built on hills, and if you don't have enough power to power up them at around 65 then it gets dangerous. California highway speeds are more like 75-80mph.

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its all about the what your satisfied with, if the 2.5 isn't enough engine then snatch it out but don't put some overhyped piece of weight like a 4.0 in it stick a real engine in there something that can smoke 37s and pull a dump truck, I say you need to go and get a LS1,3 and buy every gear large axle, aftermarket part, a super chip.
The 4.0 is more than adequate for most. Just because you think it's overhyped doesn't mean it actually is. There's good reason most stick with the 4.0.

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I wonder how many folks on here have tried all these wizardly improvements and tormented over another 40 hp. Because someone said that x axle is horrible or x motor is no good or X transmission will break.
This statement doesn't make sense.

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I have turned a many a wrench and will probably do so again tomorrow. I say have it but when you decide to ditch the 2.5, then don't get a 4.0 get a Cummins cause they are the boss. I'm not cause in the end my 2.5 will take me any where your 4.0, will. When the end of the earth comes only Cockroaches and 2.5l jeeps will be left.
Cummins motors aren't inexpensive or easy to find. Typically people pay through the nose to get them, only on the rare occasion do you find someone who scored one for cheap. V8 engines are incredibly easy and inexpensive to find, and still put the power to the ground, that is why a lot of people go for them, myself included. They are more practical.
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Unread 04-06-2013, 11:43 AM   #34
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16 year old mentality? If the almighty 2.5 isnt enough your solution is to throw a v8 or a cummins in? I thought we were talking about building it to run 33s on a budget. Im sure I have more into my motor swap than his jeep is worth, hence the suggestion to pick one up with a 4.0
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Unread 04-06-2013, 03:31 PM   #35
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Everyone saying regear and motor swap is the only option is just nuts. Yah your not going to be winning races but you'll be ok.. I ran 33s with the 4cyl for about a year and a half.. Than I did the motor swap. If anything I think that's the way to go because you'll hve the 4:10 axles already and regearong won't be as bad because you won't need a new carrier which I beleive you need when going from 3:07s that 6 cyl jeeps come with
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Unread 04-06-2013, 08:48 PM   #36
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The 2.5 in 4low will pull the buthole out of the earth. That being said I am running 33's. A 302 will be finding its way under my hood as soon as I have the parts and time to do so. I already got an 8.8 in and an ax15. As good as the 4.0 is, it does not justify the time and money required for a swap from a 2.5.
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The 2.5 in 4low will pull the buthole out of the earth.
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Unread 04-08-2013, 12:35 PM   #38
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I'm all in with the 2,5 yeah I would imagine in hilly terrain the 2.5 will loose ground, but the 2.5 is enough engine all day long here at the coast and then some. cheap hp increases are electric fan, throttle body spacer and 4.0 throttle body, hub conversion, asperate a little more if possible, the ax5 is medium duty engine, mine came out of a Comanche, and its seen every hill in uwharie more than once change oil and drive like you got some since and it will be fine... Oh and unless all my on hands experience is way off, vibrations don't accept the status quo on vibes they can be eliminated with knuckle busting precision. Once they are gone you will se the biggest increase in hp. Also emmediately swap in speedo gear this sends all the right signal to the computer as you will be in sink with the gear change an rpm band.

All my experience has led me to believe the biggest drain on the 2.5 is all the things it turns that are unnecessary ie: fan front shaft and axles and carrier. I'm sure when they are new this is not an issue but the 2.5 will be more sensitive to out of balance components because it does not have the hp to overcome them.

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Unread 04-08-2013, 12:37 PM   #39
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Little error their the ax5 is not an engine I was talking about transmission I have the original engine.
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Unread 04-17-2013, 07:09 PM   #40
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So I finally got the parts ordered today!(well some of them at least) I'm getting 33" tires. I haven't decided what brand yet so clearly they haven't been ordered, feel free to chime in on opinions of mudterrains and all terrain tires which are what I am considering at the moment. I also ordered my 3" trailmaster lift so i would love to hear anyones experience with trailmaster lifts as well. Thanks for all the help again guys.

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Unread 04-17-2013, 08:28 PM   #41
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33's are here, so far so good!

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Unread 04-17-2013, 09:02 PM   #42
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that looks great! same kind of tires I'm trying to get too.
What size lift is that?
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Unread 04-17-2013, 09:06 PM   #43
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33/12.5 desertrat.com special $999 with rims

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Unread 04-17-2013, 09:24 PM   #44
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Awesome! Looks great!!! I daily drive my 2.5 with 35's right now and don't really have problems because I don't have to drive freeway speed. I can go 55-65 with little worry on fairly flat ground. I'm very very easy on my drivetrain though. My axles have held up so far to the mild off-roading that I've done. I'm waiting for that day though so i can swap in my 8.8!
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Unread 04-17-2013, 11:04 PM   #45
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Wow! You asked a question, and sure got a lot of different answers.

IMHO, the best answer was from Carlos. Put together a 2.5in. lift with a transfer case drop. You may need to shim the rear springs, to get rid of vibes. You will fit 33's with no problem. Add a locker up front, the D35 can't handle one.

The bad news is, you will lose high end power. 5th gear will be all but useless. But if you regear to 4.88's, the world will be right again. Even your speedometer will be accurate.

As far as the AX-5 goes, put Pennzoil Syncromesh in it, and it will give you few problems. The 5th gear clip may pop off,(it happened to me) but Mean Max did a write-up on it that won't require you to pull it to fix the clip. Here is the link:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/a...emoval-908252/

I wouldn't think of swapping out my 2.5L. I love the lighter weight. It also tends to not break other things.

Good luck with your build.
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