32RH lock up or non-lock up Torque Convertor - JeepForum.com

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 10 Old 04-23-2013, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
crotzo80
Registered User
1983 CJ8 
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 37
32RH lock up or non-lock up Torque Convertor

I need some help identifying whether or not I have a lock up or non lock up torque convertor, The Jeep is a 93 YJ with a 4.0 32RH 3 speed auto.

The guy at Transtar was unable to tell me but mentioned that the input shaft of the Trans hsould be osme type of indicator... Any help would be greatly appreciated!



crotzo80 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 Old 04-23-2013, 07:27 PM
laybackman
Bikini Bridge Inspector
 
laybackman's Avatar
2010 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 6,903
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/3...ockup-1186971/

My information is in post #2. Hopes it helps you.

Do you know what was good about the good old days? I wasn't good, And I wasn't old!

Senators and Congressman should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we could identify their corporate sponsors....
laybackman is offline  
post #3 of 10 Old 04-23-2013, 07:42 PM
laybackman
Bikini Bridge Inspector
 
laybackman's Avatar
2010 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 6,903
The converter is a three element unit, impeller, stator, turbine.
It also has a converter clutch. It is controlled by an electrical solenoid and a mechanical clutch module on the valve body. The solenoid is operated by the PCM

Do you know what was good about the good old days? I wasn't good, And I wasn't old!

Senators and Congressman should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we could identify their corporate sponsors....
laybackman is offline  
post #4 of 10 Old 04-23-2013, 07:44 PM Thread Starter
crotzo80
Registered User
1983 CJ8 
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 37
Hey Laybackman,

Thanks for the information, I saw your post earlier today when searching for info. With this information, does this mean that all the torque convertors for this trans are the same? There is not specific lockup and non lockup type?

Please confirm.
crotzo80 is offline  
post #5 of 10 Old 04-23-2013, 08:07 PM
laybackman
Bikini Bridge Inspector
 
laybackman's Avatar
2010 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 6,903
From what I have for information all 30RH and 32RH tranny use the same type of TC.


Do you know what was good about the good old days? I wasn't good, And I wasn't old!

Senators and Congressman should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we could identify their corporate sponsors....
laybackman is offline  
post #6 of 10 Old 04-23-2013, 09:12 PM
W_A_Watson_II
Registered User
1993 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dalton City
Posts: 614
Garage
The number of splines should tell you. 26 splines is for the Lock Up, and 27 splines was non-lockup.

Will Watson
1993 Jeep YJ 4.6L Stroker (jeep.wawii.com)
1946 & 49 Dodge Power Wagon, 1953 Dodge M37
W_A_Watson_II is offline  
post #7 of 10 Old 04-24-2013, 04:32 AM Thread Starter
crotzo80
Registered User
1983 CJ8 
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 37
So now I have mixed information, can someone confirm either way? Are all torque converters the same for the 32RH, or do they really have two different spline counts?
crotzo80 is offline  
post #8 of 10 Old 04-24-2013, 06:04 AM
laybackman
Bikini Bridge Inspector
 
laybackman's Avatar
2010 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 6,903
Quote:
Originally Posted by crotzo80 View Post
So now I have mixed information, can someone confirm either way? Are all torque converters the same for the 32RH, or do they really have two different spline counts?
My info came from a FSM BUT that does not mean they are correct. They often made mistakes in printing those books up.

Check the spline count on your and replace it with the same type!

OEM part number 5211 7877 according to the OEM parts manaul

Do you know what was good about the good old days? I wasn't good, And I wasn't old!

Senators and Congressman should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we could identify their corporate sponsors....
laybackman is offline  
post #9 of 10 Old 04-24-2013, 06:16 AM
W_A_Watson_II
Registered User
1993 YJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dalton City
Posts: 614
Garage
The shop that rebuilt my '94 automatic ordered the Tc from his supplier, and they gave us the Lock-Up unit, and it would not fit/install. Only after counting splines and doing some on-line research did I discover that it was for a Lock-Up tranny, and as I suspected mine wasn't I found the Non-Lockup was a different spline count, they admitted their mistake and shipped me the correct unit.

26 splines (Lock-Up)

27 splines (Non-Lockup)

Will Watson
1993 Jeep YJ 4.6L Stroker (jeep.wawii.com)
1946 & 49 Dodge Power Wagon, 1953 Dodge M37
W_A_Watson_II is offline  
post #10 of 10 Old 04-24-2013, 10:33 AM Thread Starter
crotzo80
Registered User
1983 CJ8 
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 37
Thanks for all the help guys! With the info that I got in the last post, I was able to confirm that I have a no lockup converter. And of course like most others got the wrong one first!

So just to confirm, 26 spline count is the lock up style

And 27 spline count is the no lock up
crotzo80 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome