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Old 09-21-2009, 09:51 PM   #181
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I have a Jetta with the 2.0 turbo. Its a blast to drive. I always wanted a toyota 4x with the 22rte, not many of them left due to a poorly designed turbo...

I have started my copy of Hulkgreen's build. He is going to build me an adapter similar to his. I wish there was a direct bolt on but this seems to be the easiest way. My biggest difference is Im starting with a 4cyl. Im curious to see how it does with 4.10 gears.
I will be able to tell you how it does with 4.10's ......

I have a Dana 44 out of an Isuzu Rodeo with 4.10's and a Dana 44 out of a Grand Waggoneer ( to put 4.10 gears in ) and I am gonna eventually run 33's as my daily driver tire !!

BUT ; with my back surgery coming up in Oct 20th ..... I don't know whether or not I can finish my engine and do the axles ( on my income and in the time frame I have available !! )
As I mentioned earlier my wife is gonna burn down the garage and JEEP if I try to work on it before I heal !!

I talked to a MECHANICAL ENGINEER/Mercedes Mechanic today and he is gonna help me get the wiring integrated with the Mercedes and JEEP performed !!

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Old 09-21-2009, 10:15 PM   #182
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i have been reading this since you started, and i also have been doing some reading on the differences between turbochargers and superchargers. (i wanted one on my I6) i found that a supercharger was better because it ran off your belts and kept time with your engine. where as a turbo has to wind up then all it extra force in exerted onto the drivetrain at once. with all the torgue and crawling speeds, would a super charger be better?
I just got rid of a 2007 JK unlimited with a RIPP SUpercharger and some of what your readings say are true .......

IT is just not the reason ( turbo vs. super charged ) !!!

I am going diesel cause it will last basically FOREVER .... RELIABLY !!!!
AND ..... This Mercedes engine is real close in weight ( like 30 lbs. ) and very close ( actually a little less ) (like 125 hp and 185 lb. ft. ) of power and torque than the 4.0L I6 !!!!

BUT .... the 4.0L supercharged or not ...... will never get 28 mpg combined city/hiway driving nor will it get 32 mpg on the hiway !!
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:22 PM   #183
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That Daytona was a very cool car for its day as well as the Omni GLH and GLHS that were "Shelby'd" as well. I used to do NYS inspections and got the chance to drive a few to "check them out" It actually used to make me laugh how fast they really were. If I remember right didn't it have a boost light or maybe just a boost gauge on it? Good memories.

YES !! Came with a BOOST / vacuum gauge !!!

when I did my exhaust " upgrade " .... when I drove there with stock catalytic converter and muffler I could push like 13 lbs of BOOST and when I left with " high flow cat and dynomax ultraflow muffler" ........ I actually pushed the BOOST gauge to the max .....like 20 lbs of BOOST !!!

BUT , I could never push more than 16 lbs again after that one time !!! I guess the computer took over and never let it happen again !!!
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:24 PM   #184
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if you go turbo i would highly suggest running water/meth injection to keep her cool...eBay Store - ll Ultimate CC ll: Meth Injection, Snow Performance Kits, Alcohol if your interested let me know and I can get you a kit for a real good deal
THe engine comes with a stock turbo and I am not sure I want to " push " any power limits to mess up my " longevity " !!!
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:14 AM   #185
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THe engine comes with a stock turbo and I am not sure I want to " push " any power limits to mess up my " longevity " !!!
the Water/Meth is just windshield washer fluid.

It cools downs your exhaust gas temperatures and gives a minimal boost.

Won't hurt your motor, but when you're on the trail and your EGT's are screamin, it's good to have something to cool it down.

It's not something you have to use ALL the time. Just when you want.
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:18 AM   #186
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it promotes longevity and helps clean out your engine...it keeps your engine running cool and efficient without any risk of detonation (common issue for forced induction)
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:51 AM   #187
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I'm gonna put a diesel into my yota when this motor blows up (not even close to it). I'm pushing 260k miles on it right now, haha. This thing will last forever
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:58 AM   #188
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it promotes longevity and helps clean out your engine...it keeps your engine running cool and efficient without any risk of detonation (common issue for forced induction)
its kind of hard to avoid detonation on a diesel engine
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:17 PM   #189
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The whole idea behind diesels is detonation. It will keep carbon off the valves though.
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:21 PM   #190
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yea im so used to saying that on the gas forums ...but with diesels its makes them run cleaner, get better mpg and make even more power...the gains in the trucks is wild...insane torque
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:41 AM   #191
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QUOTE=UltimateCC;7971427]it promotes longevity and helps clean out your engine...it keeps your engine running cool and efficient without any risk of detonation (common issue for forced induction)[/QUOTE]

I am familiar with water/meth injection !!!

I had a RIPP superharger on my 07 JK used a meth injection and controller to both increase power and prevent detonation; and their TOTAL kit increased power by approx 125 hp !! I traded it for an 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 3.0L V6 VNT / DIESEL and I love the 21 mpg city I get with it ;and , I got rid of it so I could " PLAY " with the diesel YJ idea !!

I was impressed with both ( the RIPP UNIT and the meth injection ) !!!

You are correct I probably will not hurt ANYTHING by using a meth injection unit ; but IF you inject too much at the wrong time it COULD possibly not be good !! So ; I am only trying to protect the longevity of this motor !!

There are 4 cyl. cummins ( mechanical and electronic ) turbo charged Diesel motors that make more power and are brand new engines that have companies making adapter plates to make it easier to install into the JEEP !!! I found them priced in the area of 4 TIMES ( in the area of $6000 + labor and then accessories had to be fabricated ( vacuum for power brakes, brackets for power steering and Air Cond. ... ETC...) ; because they were industrial engines ) over the cost of what I have performed !!


BUT ; I still don't think they will see the ( 974,000 miles on the odometer ) that I have personally seen on one of these motors !! ANd heard of countless others in the ( 750,000 mile areA )

So ; I am going for LONGEVITY !!! And with the oil coolers and such that came with the donor car I don't believe heat is gonna be a significant problem !!! BUT ; THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION BASED ON MY RESEARCH !!!

IF.... I was gonna play with the power it would be to ADD a VNT/VGT turbo in place of the stock unit !! There is a company in ( I think Finland ) that for approx $ 6000 will " tweak " the INJECTION PUMP and add about 125 horse to engine safely !!! Then an INTERCOOLER..... BUT ....this is ALL YEARS DOWN THE ROAD
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:53 AM   #192
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Yeap man I agree, have it running first and then if you have any issues fix them down the road, no need for more boost or meth, it's a Jeep not a dragster, if the turbo spools fast enough to give you power at low RPM's, then I would be happy, specially when wheeling
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:00 AM   #193
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My friends....

IT IS ALIVE !!!

Got it started last nite using the mercedes electronics ; Unfortunately it had a fuel leak so could only let it idle for less than 10 minutes !! Of , course it was 10 pm so I must go spend my day searching down the leak !!

GOtta GO !!! I am so stoked ; since it was not much louder than a common rail cummins and that was thru the straight pipe exhaust since I have not connected it to my JEEP muffler yet which is a DYNOMAX ULTRAFLO !!
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Old 09-25-2009, 08:38 AM   #194
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congrats, glad to hear its coming along nicely
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Old 09-25-2009, 07:40 PM   #195
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I think I can speak for everyone else here and say that we would like to see a video of it starting and running. Glad to hear its alive!!!

P.S. Any details of the Mercedes electronics to Jeep electronics? Hope you're writing it all down so some of us can buy your kit one day with instructions
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