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Unread 02-13-2012, 06:01 PM   #1
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1995 YJ Transmission

Today I was driving home and the transmission locked up about 2 blocks from home. Can't get it out of gear. I was able to "double clutch" and get it home but can't get it to move out of gear. I'll have to have it towed to a shop at this point. My question is how do I tell what kind of transmission I have? It's a 2.5 motor, 5 speed. I'd like to be able to look up pricing on transmissions before I take it in to a shop. That way I can also call around and do a little price shopping. The local jeep dealer told me about $5500 to replace it - but they also mentioned two different transmissions ($700 difference). Of course maybe this one can be rebuilt (I only have 81,000 miles on it), but I'd like to find out how much a new one can be done for before I make a decision. I'm strapped for cash and going to lose my job in a few months, so I can't go "deluxe" - any suggestion on how to tell what I need? also any suggestions on a "brand" or place to order one if I need a whole new transmission?

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Unread 02-13-2012, 06:45 PM   #2
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ok hold up a second... Tell us again what its doing? The Jeep wont move at all or it wont go into gear. The AX5 (which you should have) is a bit on the wimpy side however most of the time they just wear out or the input gear goes bad. Basically if it wont go into gear your probably looking at a slave/master issue and not the actual transmission.
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Unread 02-13-2012, 07:34 PM   #3
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$5500!?! They must be high... I bought my jeep for $3500!
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Unread 02-13-2012, 08:21 PM   #4
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Just like mark05059 said......Have you checked the fluid in the resevoir? Did it run dry? Could be something as simple as replacing the slave cylinder. Sounds like there is an issue in your clutch and not the tranny. Check that out first. Being you have a 95 your slave is external and SUPER easy to replace. I'd go that route first and see what happens. Order the slave/master cylinder assembly from rockauto.come that is already pre-bled. Undo 4 bolts and a clip from the clutch pedal and pull the old one out and install the new one. Just did that on my 94 a few months ago and she's running perfect. Also, find a different mechanic than someone that is going to charge you over 5K for a tranny sway, good lord , that makes me wanna scream when I hear crap like that.
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Unread 02-13-2012, 09:11 PM   #5
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More accurate symptom descriptions are needed. But I can tell you that the estimates you were given are way out of line.

I do complete AX5 rebuilds in my shop for $1250 parts & labor, then add $200 if you want/need a new clutch. Another $200 parts & labor for all new hydraulics would bring the total to $1650 unless "hard parts" like gears, hubs, shafts are damaged inside the transmission. The cost of these items would be limited to the parts' prices & no additional labor.

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NOS AX 5 Collins Bros, under $1750, no core charge. That is a brand new trans. Labor wouldn't add that much to replace it and add in a new clutch job. $5500? Run away, run away.........you don't want to go to the Jeep dealership for this. You can also find junk yard AX 5's and bolt them in for way less than that. When they're telling you $5500, they're telling you "GO AWAY." They don't want your bidness. Start shopping around.
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Basically it won't go in/out of gear. I was literally 2 blocks from home, went to downshift and it wouldn't come out of gear - it just stuck. I could move the jeep - basically since I was still "moving" I just double clutched it in the current gear and got it home to my driveway. This girl is very much dependent on a mechanic - I don't do anything to it on my own. I had no idea it could be something else - just assumed it was the transmission since it's so old. Should I still take it to a transmission type mechanic/shop or go with a local independent "general/all around" mechanic? I am so hoping it's nothing major, as I'm about to be laid off in the next 90 days.....(that's a whole other story LOL). I appreciate all the advice I can get.
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So where is the reservoir located? Is there a source where I can see a picture of where I need to look? When I had the oil changed they didn't mention I was low on any fluids or anything.
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So where is the reservoir located? Is there a source where I can see a picture of where I need to look? When I had the oil changed they didn't mention I was low on any fluids or anything.
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I would not be the least bit surprised there was no mention of other fluids, very doubtful someone would check this on an oil change unless you were to specifically ask for them to look. If your pedal still feels normal, it's not likely to be clutch hydraulics, but if it is limp and mushy, it's a possibility. Have you checked the lube in your transmission? Is it low, empty, has shrapnel in it etc?
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Basically it won't go in/out of gear. I was literally 2 blocks from home, went to downshift and it wouldn't come out of gear - it just stuck. I could move the jeep - basically since I was still "moving" I just double clutched it in the current gear and got it home to my driveway.......
This sounds like a "spun" syncro. This would require a full teardown & rebuild. I say this with some reservation because I'm not actually seeing/feeling it myself, and I can only post what I surmise based on what I read & interpret from the info here.

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same thing happened to me to my 95 wrangler. clutch had no resistance, wouldnt go into gear. guy put in a new slave, master cylinder and a new clutch. works fine now.
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same thing happened to me to my 95 wrangler. clutch had no resistance, wouldnt go into gear. guy put in a new slave, master cylinder and a new clutch. works fine now.
Really? Same thing happened? Couldn't get it OUT of gear? Replaced the hydraulics & everything was good? Amazing.

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i guess.it depends on what gear your in or going in or something. when i went to drive and it was messed up it barely went into reverse then it barely went into 1st. so if your going forward i guess you wouldnt be able to get it out of gear.depends what way your about to drive it seems like from the multiple different stories. yeah get out of gear. i couldnt get it out of gear(1st) to go into R. then i couldnt get it out of R to go into 1st to pull off. this is when it barely worked. then it stopped working, later it got towed, then it got fixed
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