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post #1 of 15 Old 11-02-2008, 01:09 AM Thread Starter
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102 Inch Whip Antenna Technical Issues With Use In Groups

This is a basic question about the technical reasons, if any, to why clubs don't allow 102inch Whip Antennas. I was interested in getting one for the look to match my rig better but my roommate said they weren't allowed by a lot of groups but he didn't remember why.

I was wondering if there was any technical reason such as power output that are the reason. Or if you know if there isn't a problem with the specific style I am getting. A 102 Inch Stainless Steel Whip Antenna.


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post #2 of 15 Old 11-02-2008, 01:54 AM
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because they whip. 102" if not tied down swings around a lot and people were getting hit with them, while helping to spot for the driver. They were also getting hit while trying to rock a stuck jeep.
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because they whip. 102" if not tied down swings around a lot and people were getting hit with them, while helping to spot for the driver. They were also getting hit while trying to rock a stuck jeep.
Makes sense to me. You're running a line of sight communication without a repeater, so the higher the antenna the better transmitting and receiving range.


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As far as technical performance and simplicity you can't beat the 102" whip. BUT, like the previous poster said. You will beat the ever-livin snot out of your trail side companions. I have seen mine cut 1" thick tree branches like they were nothing.

I like mine, but I make sure it is SECURELY tied down on the trail.

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I run one, and love the performance, but like the others have said it's dangerous when it flies around, so I always have mine tied down when on the trials.

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Just get a fire stick and make sure you install everything properly, use the right length of wire and go buy an SWR meter. You will get great performance, not as good as a 102" but pretty darn close.

You will not be happy the first time you go under some low limbs and that whip comes back an smacks the S*&^ out of you or your passanger.........

dont forget that when using a steel whip it is imperitive that the whip stays in good shape, the signal will be degradated once the whip gets damaged hitting trees and other obsticals, so eventually you will wind up with about the same performance as a firestick.

I spent 10 years as comm tech in the USMC and basically the local CB guy when I was stationed in NC....

It is funny when I was in NC there were tons of people to talk to on the CB, out here in Colorado unless I go wheelin with someone that has a CB I have never (not kidding) Never had a conversation on the CB, and I have tried. I can pick up some skip but never anyone local.....

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As john says, that whip is a 1/4 wave antenna. You can by a fiberglass 3/4 wave or a shorty like the one he mentioned. Those are loaded with a wire wrapped around the outside to equal standing wave ratio of the whip! You can do a clamp mount to the roll bar with a shorty also to get the height needed for line of site. That way you can take it down when the top is on also.
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If you want a whip simply put a flag on it and it stops the whipping.

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i have a whip, with an angry snowman on it and it keeps it from flying all over. I love how clear the conversations are on it.

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You guys are talking about 'whips' and 'beatings' and stuff.
This is a FAMILY site for heaven's sake!

Fire Stick is the way to go. Just as clear as the RS-102SS whip.
A good ground connection, dialed in correctly with an SWR bridge, and a good ground plane mounting location. The middle of your hood would be the best spot, but not for looks.
The radio waves hit the ground plane, and umbrella up and out.
So mounting them low or behind the vehicle on the rear bumper are not good locations.

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do any of you have pictures of mounting locations? I was split between the bumper and getting a prefab mount that gets sandwiched between the taillight and tub....

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hmmm... I hadn't thought of that..
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Nothing beats the whip but the Browning's also are hard to beat. Handles a 1000watt heater also.

And nobody will get whipped to death.
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