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post #91 of 94 Old 03-04-2010, 12:18 AM
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Chrysler races to upgrade its lineup

Revision for Wrangler

Vehicles getting important revisions include the Jeep Wrangler, coming in the third quarter. Wranglers sold with diesel engines, outside the United States, will get stop-start technology, which saves fuel by turning off the engine when the car stops.

Wranglers will also get exterior styling modifications.



Read more: Chrysler races to upgrade its lineup
Where's the Wranglers sold with diesel engines, inside the United States?

I'm going to wager right now that they're going to round and smooth the contours of the Wrangler to improve fuel economy, detracting from it's rugged, boxy looks.

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post #92 of 94 Old 03-04-2010, 07:44 AM
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I'd hardly call a health care system that ranks Canada with a higher life expectancy and overall health higher then yours a failure, but that's not the point of this thread.

As for the dealers, do you have any idea how much it costs to run a dealership? They were costing Chrysler an absolute ****ton of red cents. Inventory costs, maintenance costs, salaries of those employees, transportation costs, sales cannibalization, the list goes on. The two single biggest money sinks (IE, costs that cannot be recouped, versus the cost recouped from buying the materials to build a car by selling it) in a large manufacturing company are inventory and transportation. And the biggest failure of the American car companies is sales cannibalization. There are countless cities that packed far more dealerships in one location then was needed-the city I grew up in had only 30,000 people, and was within 30 minutes of several larger cities, yet had TWO Chrysler dealers.

The fact is that Chrysler was dumping millions of dollars into these dealerships that simply weren't paying for themselves.

Were some dealerships shafted for pissing off Chrysler management? Probably. Is this some conspiracy? Nope. The fact is that closing dealerships is one of the fastest and easiest ways to shed a bunch of largely unnecessary inventory control and distribution network costs, which are the worst sort because they absolutely cannot be directly recouped.

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well the article further infers and DOES mention the Wrangler IS getting the new P-star v6 in 2011, (maybe "not" first quarter" but, I imagine as soon as enough are built) along w/ minor styling refreshing,... makes those who want a new Jk able to get a great(er) buy if any '10's are leftover OR get the '11 and new engine (nice for the folks who tow, etc.,) soon. I doubt (unless sales, economy still suck badly) that '11 rebates and getting at /below invoice pricing will be found at least early on...Personally, I prefer body/powertrain designs MORE than 3 years old, one reason I waited for '10 vice buying earlier, seems a lot of bugs w/ '07/08's exist w/ top, electronics etc., but, the ol 3.8 is solid!

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I'd hardly call a health care system that ranks Canada with a higher life expectancy and overall health higher then yours a failure, but that's not the point of this thread.

As for the dealers, do you have any idea how much it costs to run a dealership? They were costing Chrysler an absolute ****ton of red cents. Inventory costs, maintenance costs, salaries of those employees, transportation costs, sales cannibalization, the list goes on. The two single biggest money sinks (IE, costs that cannot be recouped, versus the cost recouped from buying the materials to build a car by selling it) in a large manufacturing company are inventory and transportation. And the biggest failure of the American car companies is sales cannibalization. There are countless cities that packed far more dealerships in one location then was needed-the city I grew up in had only 30,000 people, and was within 30 minutes of several larger cities, yet had TWO Chrysler dealers.

The fact is that Chrysler was dumping millions of dollars into these dealerships that simply weren't paying for themselves.

Were some dealerships shafted for pissing off Chrysler management? Probably. Is this some conspiracy? Nope. The fact is that closing dealerships is one of the fastest and easiest ways to shed a bunch of largely unnecessary inventory control and distribution network costs, which are the worst sort because they absolutely cannot be directly recouped.
As a matter of fact, yes I do happen to know what it takes to run a dealership and you've made it very apparent that you don't. I also know that the independent dealerships were NOT COSTING CHRYSLER ONE RED CENT.

See, you overlooked the key word in my post which was "independent." By and large, a majority of the dealerships closed were independents and not corporate owned dealerships.

To help you figure it out, an independent dealership BUYS the cars on its lot from Chrysler, but using short term loans from local banks and financiers. Chrysler has already been paid for the cars sitting on the lots of independent dealerships. It is then up to the dealer to turn those cars over quickly and pay off their short term notes before interest begins accruing.


And on your healthcare statement, if Canada and European countries counted miscarriages and dead-upon-birth like the US does, you'd see that your actual life expectancy and life-to-death rate was lower. The fact is, the US still considers it a human life from the moment of conception, and does not wait until the baby takes it's first breath of air before declaring it a life.

It's a widely published fact that the wealthy Canadians and govt officials are still coming to the US for medical tests and procedures.

Now, on that note I am done with this thread. I don't wish to argue with proponents of socialism who throw out blanket lies and personal attacks on JeepForum.
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