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post #1 of 94 Old 12-12-2009, 02:42 PM Thread Starter
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Wrangler gets 2.8L diesel in Oct

The 011 wrangler goes into production next September 010 with the old 3.8 gasoline engine, in Oct. it gets a 2.8L diesel option, and in 012 wrangler is scheduled too drop the 3.8 , and get the new Pentastar 3.6 as its stock engine, with a diesel option . Note: info came from Oh20 on the allpor.com/forum


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post #2 of 94 Old 12-12-2009, 02:49 PM
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Sounds dinky... They need to bring back a V8 (gasoline or diesel)

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Source? Allpar, and the Chrysler/Fiat presentation, stated that we'd have the Pentastar for the '11 model year. Already knew about the diesel option, although they didn't list which one...but, again, Allpar notes that the Wrangler will be getting a Fiat, not a Mercedes/VM diesel.

EDIT: NVM, found the source. So, it looks like the truth is somewhere in between-it'll be a 2.8L, 4-cylinder Fiat (Iveco) diesel engine that puts out 220 HP and 300 ft/lbs of torque. Not bad, a bit more HP then the 3.8L and a lot more torque. Less HP then the 3.6, but, again, more torque and more efficient then either.

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To read oh2o own words go to Allpar has Dodge, Chrysler, Plymouth, and Jeep car, minivan, and truck information then go to news and rumours, look for forum then go to topic an unofficial ASAL upcoming vehicle test.
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Sounds dinky... They need to bring back a V8 (gasoline or diesel)
yeah thats so true. too bad the last time they put those in were in the CJ-5 I believe...
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Nope, the CJ-7 had a V8 for a while too.

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Yup, '81 was the last V8 powered open top Jeep.

A 4.7HO would do REEEEEEEEEEEEALLY well in a JK..............
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The 4.7L is being discontinued, because the 3.6L Pentastar is supposedly more powerful. But a 5.7L Hemi wouldn't be a bad option for those who want a decent highway vehicle.

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Just-in Dec 14 :The new state-side wrangler diesel engine , will be the current wrangler export diesel ! per oh2o at allpar.co
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So, overseas they get the snazzy new Fix It Again Tony diesel, and then we get the old thrashy tractor 2.8 VM?
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No, we both get the VM Motori, the same ones they're already building for the global market. (The original rumours said that the VM would be dumped in favour of an Iveco, but apparently that's not true for the moment).

The export diesel Wranglers get about 175 HP (Not amazing, but not poor either) and 340 ft/lbs of torque (And now we're talking!), and mileage in the low 20s. Cruises comfortably at 140 KPH, top speed around 160 KPH, enough torque to pass on the highway and towing capacity of 3500 kgs on the Unlimited. (7700 pounds) Not shabby at all...not quite as nice as the Iveco, but a damn sight better then the 3.8L, and the older version of the 2.8L in the Liberty.

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That towing capacity is EU standards, just FYI.
They will definitely not rate it any higher than 5,000 pounds. The XJs, ZJs, WJs, KJs are the same way. 5k capacity in NA, 7700lb in the EU.

So what did they change between the 2.8 VM engine in the '05-6 KJ to the newer version of the 2.8 VM in the JK?
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Entirely new block, actually, as well as a new wiring harness.

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The current export wrangler diesel is the MV Mortori 2.8L RA428 enginel, that is build in Toledo Ohio USA, it is exported with the 545rfe auto trans by Jeep.
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I think a 2.8 diesel would be great in a Wrangler.
I'm not going to hold my breathe though. If memory serves, they tried putting a diesel in the Liberty and it fell through for whatever reason. I think it was something like the Common Rail Diesel. Apparently, it go pretty decent mileage and still had a fair amount of low end torque. But it seems like it didn't make it very long. Maybe the new management will make a difference.

I'm disappointed to hear that there won't be a Scrambler. I'd drop everything for a Jeep truck again. Give me one with the 2.8 diesel and a 6-speed manual...I'd drive that thing forever! Might even get the wife one
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