I had a roommate in the 90's from Ohio who would go on about how they got so much more snow in ohio than we get here in east TN and how people here did not know how to drive in the snow. well the first little decent snow we got that year he ended up calling me to come pick him up because he put his car in a ditch. then he went on and on about how we don't plow and salt the roads like they do up there, i don't even think the county owned a slow plow then. when we actually do get snow here I guarantee that a rear wheel drive t-bird would not get out of my driveway. I have got stuck with a front wheel drive.
I don't need full time 4 wheel drive because I adjust my driving to the road conditions but I think one of the best things on the JK rubicon is selectable ABS. I am a firm believer in ABS for onroad but it can get dangerous offroad.
People in Ohio don't know how to drive in the snow any better than folks from East Tennessee, I have lived in both, in Oh. now and it's crazy....ha ha, we had light flurries 2 days ago and you should have seen the accidents pile up...crazy!!
formerly known as "cwagoner"
I wouldn't be interested in a Wrangler with a 242. I don't need more traction in the rain. However, I wish my TJ had ESC, traction control, and ABS like JK's. These features can keep you on the road, and avoid accidents in the rain.
Red 03 TJ sport l OME lift l ARB's front & rear l 4.11 gears l 32X11.50" MTR's l Nth Degree Tummy Tucker l SYE & CV l Nth Degree Dana 44 slider l Nth Degree Oil Pan Skid l JKS adjustable front track bar l KC slimlights l Rock Rails l IPF H4 headlights l Dynamat
If you can drive in snow in ohio, you can drive in it anywhere. I grew up in Cincinnati and lived in Columbus for 8 yrs. The problem in Ohio is, salt. You see, people in Ohio think that if you melt the snow, then all you have to do is deal with water... much easier. The problem with that is, once night comes and the pressure drops, all that water, freezes. You're really screwed if after the freezing, it snows again on top of that, because no tire can grab hold of snow on top of ice. I drive 30-40mph in stuff out here that is crippling to other motorists. I think snow here is a joke compared to what I dealt with Ohio. Here in COS, they dont use salt, they use ground up rock. This simply gives the effect of studs on tires w/o them. The snow will melt on its own, and as long as there are some rocks on the road, there's never a big problem. Also, I'm fairly certain that COS has about 3 times as many plows and trucks, that Columbus does, the 8th largest city in the country... so a level 3 emergency there, is totally manageable here.
CJ7's had the BW1339 Quadratrac fulltime transfer case as an option from 76 to 79. It's not a well understood t-case and is maligned by the uninformed and those who have never owned one, but is much loved by the people who own them. The fuel economy difference is extremely negligible, especially given that modern JK's don't have disconnecting hubs of any kind and the axles/driveshaft are always turning anyway. The aerodynamics of a brick and very aerodynamically "dirty" undercarriage have a lot more to do with a Jeep's fuel economy than fulltime 4x4 does.
I had a 1978 & 1979 Chief Grand Cherrokee's that both had the BW1339 Quadratrac fulltime transfer's. The 78 was push button, which I broke while rolling over 3 times back down a hillside ( someone thought he could take the hill at an angle after being told you WILL roll it over, Ah to be 19 again and a know it all ) The 79 was shift on the floor and was my DD and weenkend wheeler. Both had 360's in them and were very much fun to drive. I wish I still had them today. However as I was a smarter-than-anyone 19 year old kid , I destroyed both of them and my father had them hauled off. I loved to lock in the hubs throw it into 4H and blast into a muddy pit throwing roster tails of mud from all four tire's. FWIW, a 79 waggy's frame will NOT defeat a large walnut tree, the Tree will win and the BW1339 will sit nicely into the passager's side pushing the seat back afterwards.
I don't understand why they don't bring them back. If not the BW1339's maybe a newer version? I loved the AWD part of my old Jeeps.
1989 Jeep wrangler YJ. 4.2L 258 in-line6, front dana 30 rear dana 35?? NP231 nothing fancy yet.
I have to say I wish my TJ had SelecTrac. I love having SelecTrac in my KJ, as having full-time four-wheel drive is great for mixed road conditions where random parts of the roads are dry to ice to snow. Last winter I drove 3,000 miles which included towing a trailer over the Rockies and having that full-time in my KJ was great where I wouldn't want to use the part-time setting.
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