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post #31 of 125 Old 11-14-2011, 09:20 AM
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people do it every day
People. Not corporations. Crash standards. Pedestrian impact standards. Emissions. Making all of the changes to the braking system, suspension system, tuning shocks for the weight of the engine. Changing the code for the stability control and traction control and ABS due to the weight changes. Will there have to be changes to the frame? Larger radiator? How many items under the hood will have to be relocated?

These are just some of the things I can think of and I don't know squat about engineering.


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post #32 of 125 Old 11-14-2011, 02:34 PM
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People. Not corporations. Crash standards. Pedestrian impact standards. Emissions. Making all of the changes to the braking system, suspension system, tuning shocks for the weight of the engine. Changing the code for the stability control and traction control and ABS due to the weight changes. Will there have to be changes to the frame? Larger radiator? How many items under the hood will have to be relocated?

These are just some of the things I can think of and I don't know squat about engineering.
thats why i said people, meaning aftermarket, and i understand u have to do all that, but your gonna have to do it with ANY motor swap wether it be motori, cummins, briggs & stratton, thats what i couldn't get the other guy to understand, the arguement is about WHAT diesel to put in there


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post #33 of 125 Old 11-15-2011, 12:36 AM
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thats why i said people, meaning aftermarket, and i understand u have to do all that, but your gonna have to do it with ANY motor swap wether it be motori, cummins, briggs & stratton, thats what i couldn't get the other guy to understand, the arguement is about WHAT diesel to put in there
The one that you have to do the least work on ? And a v8 would be the one
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post #34 of 125 Old 11-16-2011, 07:30 AM
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The one that you have to do the least work on ? And a v8 would be the one
you make no sense at all, have you looked under the hood of a jk, they would have to design a v8 to fit (therefore more work) and i've already proved its useless dont need a v8 diesel in a jeep


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you make no sense at all, have you looked under the hood of a jk, they would have to design a v8 to fit (therefore more work) and i've already proved its useless dont need a v8 diesel in a jeep
The wk2 already has two v8,s Toyota has two v8,s petrol & diesel ! If they can get the 6.4L in it they can get a small v8 diesel in too
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The wk2 already has two v8,s Toyota has two v8,s petrol & diesel ! If they can get the 6.4L in it they can get a small v8 diesel in too
You can't compare different vehicles and assume a V8 would fit and pass crash standards.

Now if you want that V8 JK to be a four door with no transfer case or front axle it would probably take less work to make it fit.

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You can't compare different vehicles and assume a V8 would fit and pass crash standards.

Now if you want that V8 JK to be a four door with no transfer case or front axle it would probably take less work to make it fit.
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So that said your right but as said it already has the small & big v8 in it so they should be ok to put a small v8 diesel in it ? if the wk2 only had a 4 & v6,s it would be harder but it already has two v8,s so it has already been tested for v8,s . And you said it was to small it is not ! That is why I said about the toyota ute we are not talking about a small jeep we are talking about the GC
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What's the bottom s h i t t i n line here? I want the cherokee and tj to come back and with diesel. I think they could do it. Of course, it probably wouldn't sell in the markets they want it to sell in....but i'd be so pleased
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You don't need a v-8 diesel. Weight is a huge issue. There was talk of gm running a small caterpillar diesel in there HD trucks before the duramax was introduced but the frames and front suspension wasn't heavy enough. With the light weight of a jeep it would do just fine with an intercooled inline 4 turbo diesel.
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You don't need a v-8 diesel. Weight is a huge issue. There was talk of gm running a small caterpillar diesel in there HD trucks before the duramax was introduced but the frames and front suspension wasn't heavy enough. With the light weight of a jeep it would do just fine with an intercooled inline 4 turbo diesel.
The jeep GC already have two v8,s ,so you,s are saying that the v8,s that are in the GC are to big for them bull**** lol
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You don't need a v-8 diesel. Weight is a huge issue. There was talk of gm running a small caterpillar diesel in there HD trucks before the duramax was introduced but the frames and front suspension wasn't heavy enough. With the light weight of a jeep it would do just fine with an intercooled inline 4 turbo diesel.
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So you are saying that jeep should take the v8,s out that are in the GC lol
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Get on you tube and see what a little 4 bt cummins does in a jeep!
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post #45 of 125 Old 11-18-2011, 08:40 PM
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So you are saying that jeep should take the v8,s out that are in the GC lol
there is a big weight and power differince in a gas v8 and a diesel v8, heres a video of a 4bt


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