Originally Posted by markso125
You guys do realize he is in Switzerland and they dont have Ukons, Expeditions, Suburbans or any of that over there. While we think that the commander is really a mundane attempt at trying to compete with the Expedition or the Denali, he is looking up what those vehicles look like because he has probably only seen a handfull of them in passing in the last several years, if at all in real life. But you can get a 4 wheel drive Volkswagen golf with a 2.3l v5 engine in it.
And as a note, they dont have pickup trucks as we know them anywhere but the Americas(primarily north america) either. Most places the Ranger or the High Lux (toyota tacoma) are the biggest trucks you find.
I'm glad someone noticed. And it's not just the availability, but also where you use them. In the US all the roads are big, mostly straight line, parkinglots are designed for large SUV's, etc. So having an Expedition over there is still "normal", whereas in Europe you would be totally lost. Parking lots designed for cars like Fiat Punto, and most roads follow still the same path as they did 500 years ago = not straight. Even some Autobahns in Germany are really curvy, with unlimited speedlimit.
But, coming back to the point. Sure, e.g. Ford Expedition is huge. You can fit in there 7 people with full size luggage, great. I've done it myself. You can go shopping with it, great. You can drive from coast to coast with it, great. Anything else?
The suspension is so soft that it makes it all wobbly, the handling is horrible if you really need to be able to handle the car. Meaning, not driving a straight line at 55mph. Would you drive with it 100mph on a curvy road? I wouldn't. With a Commander you can do that.
And how about rock climbing with an Expedition, or off-roading in general in the woods? Don't see many people doing that. With a Commander, you can do both.
The 3rd row in Expedition is great, you can put adults there even for a long trip. And like said, you'll still have enough room for luggage. In the Commander the 3rd row is not the same. It's usable for adults only for short distances, but for small kids it's ok. But that's anyway how I would imagine most families use it. At least our's. We've got 2 adults, 3 kids, 3 small dogs, and the occasional mother-in-law aboard. For that it's perfect. If it was bigger, it would mean bigger outer dimensions for the car, smaller ground clearance, or maybe both. Not worth it.
Ok, the third row blocks the view from the rear window. Fine. Anyway if you have a trunk full of stuff, it's blocked. And at least our 2nd and 3rd row passengers appreciate the stadium seating, so that even kids at the back are able to see the road. Which is nice. Staring at the back of the seat in front of you for 10 hours is not that great. So, it's a trade-off. And in my opinion worth it.
I don't know about the reliability of the big-*** SUVs in the US, but at least the Commander is solid and reliable as hell. I don't know about the ones over there, but mine is built in Austria, and never had a single problem in it. Just the regular service every 20 000km is enough.
The diesel-engine is unbelievable. It has 520Nm of torque as soon as you hit the pedal, which means it's there when you need it. Perfect for overtaking and pulling heavy loads uphill. And if you engage the LOW, you'll get 1400Nm of torque. Enough to pull just about anything.
So to sum it up. There are bigger SUVs. There are more luxurious SUVs. There are more off-road capable SUVs (not many though, especially for 7 people). But I have not seen a better all-purpose vehicle. So far we've asked about everything from the Commander that you can ask from a car. Not once has the answer been "sorry, can't do it".