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Unread 06-30-2012, 10:59 PM   #61
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Is it just me, or does it seem like what a lot of you guys want in the new model ,straight from the factory, the very things that this forum is based on. I feels like many of you want to get things for the factory that normally are done ourselves, like the larger wheels, or different fenders/flares.
Also, think of what these things will do to the price. Instead of buying the stock jeep and making all the mods yourself, you are now paying someone to do those mods for you. It's kinda like changing the oil your self or bringing it to jiffy lube.

I have always looked at my jeep as a blank canvas waiting to be painted. What some of you want is a paint by number that is 75% completed already.

Food for thought...

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Unread 07-01-2012, 07:43 AM   #62
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Is it just me, or does it seem like what a lot of you guys want in the new model ,straight from the factory, the very things that this forum is based on. I feels like many of you want to get things for the factory that normally are done ourselves, like the larger wheels, or different fenders/flares.
Also, think of what these things will do to the price. Instead of buying the stock jeep and making all the mods yourself, you are now paying someone to do those mods for you. It's kinda like changing the oil your self or bringing it to jiffy lube.

I have always looked at my jeep as a blank canvas waiting to be painted. What some of you want is a paint by number that is 75% completed already.

Food for thought...
We just don't want another repeat of the Dana 35, that's all... and torx bits.
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Unread 07-01-2012, 07:57 AM   #63
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OK ill keep my wish list simple DARK GREEN to easy I think 2012 doesnt have any offered at the moment.
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Unread 07-01-2012, 08:44 AM   #64
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Unread 07-01-2012, 08:46 AM   #65
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Is it just me, or does it seem like what a lot of you guys want in the new model ,straight from the factory, the very things that this forum is based on. I feels like many of you want to get things for the factory that normally are done ourselves, like the larger wheels, or different fenders/flares.
Also, think of what these things will do to the price. Instead of buying the stock jeep and making all the mods yourself, you are now paying someone to do those mods for you. It's kinda like changing the oil your self or bringing it to jiffy lube.

I have always looked at my jeep as a blank canvas waiting to be painted. What some of you want is a paint by number that is 75% completed already.

Food for thought...

I will agree on certain mods, but some cant be beat. going from a 3.21 gears from factory to a 4.1 is only $130 (as an option) Doing it yourself, even if you did labor, is still over $500
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Unread 07-01-2012, 10:35 AM   #66
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I will agree on certain mods, but some cant be beat. going from a 3.21 gears from factory to a 4.1 is only $130 (as an option) Doing it yourself, even if you did labor, is still over $500
That is one of the few things that I too believe the factory could provide, different engines. Things like that, which take true professional mechanics, can be left to the factory.
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Unread 07-01-2012, 04:51 PM   #67
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I think they should bring back the inline 6cylinder 4.0 that was a strong motor, way better then the 3.8 and 3.6 v6 in the jk right now
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Unread 07-02-2012, 01:05 AM   #68
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Not going to happen. The 4.0L doesn't pass emissions, and the 3.6L has a better torque curve, more torque and more horsepower than the 4.0L.

Don't get me wrong, it was a great engine, but people need to take it off its pedestal. The base design dates to the 50's with Studebaker, and the current form dates to the '80s. Engine technology has advanced so far in the past 30 years that it's severely outdated.
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I think they should bring back the inline 6cylinder 4.0 that was a strong motor, way better then the 3.8 and 3.6 v6 in the jk right now
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Not going to happen. The 4.0L doesn't pass emissions, and the 3.6L has a better torque curve, more torque and more horsepower than the 4.0L.

Don't get me wrong, it was a great engine, but people need to take it off its pedestal. The base design dates to the 50's with Studebaker, and the current form dates to the '80s. Engine technology has advanced so far in the past 30 years that it's severely outdated.
Aaaaaaand just like that! Your 4.0 idea has been shot down.
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well forget what I said then haha
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Unread 07-02-2012, 01:12 PM   #71
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Hey, the 4.0L had a good run, it served three generations of Wrangler as an amazing engine. But its day has gone, and the Pentastar is a fantastic engine. Not as perfectly matched to the JK as the 4.2L and 4.0L were to the CJ-7, YJ and TJ, but you've got to remember that, by modern standards, the 4.0L is pretty weak-titty. The best iteration put out 190/4600 HP and 235/3200 TQ.

The JK is quite a bit heavier, especially in Unlimited form, and the latest TJs weren't exactly speed demons to begin with.

For comparison, the JK does 220/4600 HP, and peaks at 285/5800 HP, and 250/3200 TQ (And gets to that 250 TQ at 1800 RPM).
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they are laying the windshield back a bit for sound and aero advantage. the windshield header seal will be a one piece running all the way down the a-post door jam to help with water leaks. They are leaving the fold down windshield for now. the rest of the body will get cleaned up. We ran some proto types last week on line. New soft top next month..soft material and one person can operate it in 2 mins. Spring loaded..real nice! 10 yr. Ann. rubicon coming in Aug. we tried installing 34in tires but could not get the current machines on line to install properly. Skilled trades working on that this week. Newcolors in July. Military Green, True Blue, Gun metal Gray, and PINK!! we will have to see about that one!

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Unread 07-04-2012, 06:33 AM   #73
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OD green? Just please keep it looking like a jeep and having jeep ability. Do like ford and chevy and go back to more of the original style like they did with mustang
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Unread 07-06-2012, 04:26 PM   #74
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aaaaaaand just like that! Your 4.0 idea has been shot down.
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Unread 07-06-2012, 05:41 PM   #75
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OD green? Just please keep it looking like a jeep and having jeep ability. Do like ford and chevy and go back to more of the original style like they did with mustang
They can't really go back any more than they already can-all the changes that have been made were made for various reasons-safety, aerodynamics, ect.

Besides, a lot of the changes that people rag on are actually very useful. Plastic fenders, for example. With metal fenders, repairing the inevitable denting and bending is, at best, some seriously time-consuming body work and painting, and, at worst, several hundred dollars and several hours to replace-PER fender.

Plastic fenders? A handful of bolts, a couple bucks a corner and fifteen minutes.

Besides, what's really changed? A JK looks more like an MB than a '12 Mustang does to a '64.
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