[Butchy_Boy]

If we had a tiny diesel Jeep that could be modified, I;d buy it <3 or just gimme somethign like a sammy I'd buy that also. **** just give me a vw thing with mt's

[Comanche_]

Originally Posted by YJPirate

Looks like this is what he referring to. Looks like an embarrassment to the Jeep name.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Revealed-2011-Jeep-Phoenix-Based-On-Fiat-Panda-4x4

ESTIMATED NORTH AMERICAN PRICE • $10,500

SPECIFICATIONS & OUTPUT

Body Style • Hatchback
Doors • Number of • 5
Seats • Number of • 5
Engine Displacement (cc) & Cylinders • 1248 / 4
Valves • Number of • 8

Gears
1st • 3.909:1

2nd • 2.158:1

3rd • 1.345:1

4th • 0.974:1

5th • 0.744:1

Reverse • 3.818:1

Final drive ratio • 4.062:1
4x4 Specs
Incidence angle • 24°

Exit angle • 42°

Slope angle • 24°

Climbable gradient • 50%
Type of Fuel • Unleaded
Maximum Power (bhp @ rpm) • 54 / 5000
Torque (lb / ft) • 65
Engine Layout • Front
Wheel Drive • Four Wheel
Overall Length (mm) • 3538
Overall Width (mm) • 1578
Overall Height (mm) • 1540
Front Seat Head Room (mm) • 940
Front Seat Leg Room (mm) • 1010
Rear Seat Head Room (mm) • 935
Rear Seat Knee Room (mm) • 585
Trunk Capacity Seats Up (litres) • 206
Trunk Capacity Seats Down (litres) • 860
Turning Radius (m) • 9.1
Towing Capacity (kg) • 800
Curb Weight (kg) • 840
PERFORMANCE

0 to 60 MPH (secs) • 15
Top speed (MPH) • 93

Hot damn, a road legal 4x4 go cart. I wonder how far it could go off road with a 7.7 gallon gas tank.

[marinefreak200]

Originally Posted by polished_heckle

it's all in the driver, not the vehicle.

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I can do that in my mom's sonata, big deal...

[NotURMailman]

It's an interesting concept. But, that's from a guy that thought the first model year of the Isuzu Vehicross was an interesting concept...

[ScJeepaholic]

It's cute, what kinda batteries will it need? AA, D, C????

[Marauder_Pilot]

Originally Posted by les.delancy

It's an interesting concept. But, that's from a guy that thought the first model year of the Isuzu Vehicross was an interesting concept...

Hey, the Vehicross was awesome! I'd drive one of those any day!

Anyways. I honestly think a Panda-based Jeep is a fantastic vehicle, as long as it's more then just a rebadged Panda. If they can build something like a modern-day Suzuki Samauri/Geo Tracker, it'd be fantastic-bare-bones, off-road-ready, cheap, reliable and efficient, I'd be all over one.

Especially with the diesel.

[JuniataCounty]

the problem is our emissions standards are so anti-diesel it is not even funny. Makes it hard to put them in cars (sigh)

[rpiereck]

Originally Posted by JuniataCounty

the problem is our emissions standards are so anti-diesel it is not even funny. Makes it hard to put them in cars (sigh)

That and the price of diesel in the US makes it hard for diesel powered cars to compete with their gas counterparts.

[Marauder_Pilot]

Not so much any more, the average price of diesel is a lot closer to the average price of gas. When it was a dollar or more different, then yeah, but now it's viable.

In Canada, diesel's finally cheaper then gas again! Barely, but still.

[damrabbit]

this will give you some idea of the pandas capabillities

apologies for the presenter refering to the range rover as the king of off-roaders

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAg4DdXAp7Y

[ZJJAMES]

its to small

[Carlos_I]

I actually like the idea of this "Jeep Panda". I know it's a capable little car, it has been used even as a reliable workhorse by the Swiss Post for many years, in rough conditions. So it's not all about cooked spaghetti.

However I do hope they put a bit more focus in the interior to give it more street-cred, something that a Jeep should have. Also some technical considerations from the Jeep engineers would be nice.

But all in all, Jeep doesn't have a small entry-level vehicle at the moment, this could be it. If they just do it with good taste.

[Marauder_Pilot]

There's plenty of ways this thing could be made into a Jeep that can hang with the rest of the lineup. Yeah, it'll never be a Wrangler, but it's not supposed to be. Wranglers are supposed to be Wranglers.

Do something like the Renegade concept, or a new-age Suzuki Samauri-type thing, and you're set!

[idaxj97]

Originally Posted by ScJeepaholic

It's cute, what kinda batteries will it need? AA, D, C????

^^^^ thats funny. Anyways this is just a bad dream right we will all wake up and it will all go away.

[bryandhispup]

Originally Posted by ZonaJeep

Like this?

EXACTLY LIKE THAT. Everyone please bow your heads...

Lord God, The creator of great minds that engineer the best Off Road Vehicles in the world, Jeep. We ask you collectively today that you would not allow such an embarrassment to innovation to go into production. Please Protect the heritage of a great company and the design of vehicles that are already perfect like the Wrangler and Cherokee models. In Jesus name we pray!

AMEN