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Unread 02-28-2013, 12:59 PM   #16
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http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...h-in-2015.html

Lets hope it actually happens.

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Unread 03-03-2013, 12:23 AM   #17
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http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2016...el-engine.html

Looks like it may be coming before the refresh.
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Unread 03-03-2013, 09:33 AM   #18
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Interesting. I wouldn't put too much stock into it-not that the premise is flawed, just that we've heard the same thing before, and Chrysler's plans change weekly.

That said, if it turns out to be true, and they're just going to certify the 2.8L, awesome.
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Unread 03-03-2013, 10:10 AM   #19
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Interesting. I wouldn't put too much stock into it-not that the premise is flawed, just that we've heard the same thing before, and Chrysler's plans change weekly.

That said, if it turns out to be true, and they're just going to certify the 2.8L, awesome.
I think that if they sell a bunch of Grand Cherokee diesels, the Wrangler will get one. However, if the diesel GC is a sales dud, I would not expect Wrangler to get one. Just my opinion.
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Unread 03-03-2013, 06:34 PM   #20
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That's probably the truth. The Grand Cherokee and Ram 1500 are coming first because they're both the easiest vehicles to fit diesels in (Grand Cherokee already fitted for it and getting a facelift, Ram 1500 already getting an extensive facelift to fit the 3.6L Pentastar) and the most logical choices for it (Light-duty diesel pickups having been in demand for years now, Grand Cherokee as a competitor to its diesel-powered German equivalents, and already being expensive enough to easily absorb the extra cost)
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Unread 05-07-2013, 06:29 AM   #21
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I'm waiting for a diesel. It's time we caught up with the Europeans.
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Unread 12-11-2013, 05:30 AM   #22
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so that will be when they bring out the 2015 models in late 2014 or late 2015? if they actually do it. Makes me sad when I see the rest of the world with factory diesel wranglers.
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Unread 12-11-2013, 11:14 AM   #23
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add exhaust fluid to the cost as well. i wonder how many people would pay the cost of a diesel on top of what Jeeps are costing? i would bet the option will be close to Rubi cost. it will be a auto as well i would bet. You hear people say oh if it was diesel i would be all over it, but will they? if they were doing this then it would be a long run change and i would bet it will include other niffty things like IFS, and may well turn into a Fj with no removable hard top. Seems that to fit the diesel the last year before a major redo? If we get the Hillary in I would bet that Cafe will kill jeep as we know it.
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Unread 12-14-2013, 02:37 PM   #24
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As a diesel technician whom is heavily certified in the engine department I will tell you don't hold your breath. On a heavy duty cummins the catalyst and Dpf particulate filtration system costs around 18,000 to 20,000 thousand dollars. A retrofit for cummins 5.9 is 12,000 to meet emissions. In order to make sense the military would need to buy and order them like a hummer in advance to pay for the design efforts. Guess what? Our government is broke! Zero emissions to meet requirements of 2010 for diesels. Only way you will see it is if someone retrofits a Volkswagen diesel in a jeep. Or an older jeep that requires no emissions and you install a diesel in it. But then again SEMA surprises me every year!
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Unread 12-14-2013, 05:03 PM   #25
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Interesting the diesel haven't been offered here in the US. Since the diesel is offered as a base model in the Philippines.

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Unread 12-14-2013, 06:33 PM   #26
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Do they have emission laws like ours? If so maybe it is coming! Still I wouldn't be interested. Any modification would cause it to be non compliant. Particular matter and nox will keep that engine performance pretty low as emissions have to be non existent to be compliant. Anyways, would be interesting to see. Keep us posted!
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Do they have emission laws like ours? If so maybe it is coming! Still I wouldn't be interested. Any modification would cause it to be non compliant. Particular matter and nox will keep that engine performance pretty low as emissions have to be non existent to be compliant. Anyways, would be interesting to see. Keep us posted!
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Both have a VM Motori V6 turbo diesel and are/will be sold in the States. (1500 in early 2014) The engine is impressive in factory trim making 240HP / 420TQ. Euro emissions and US emissions requirements are nearly identical now, so they are able to sell the European diesel here without issue, its only a matter of re-engineering the platform to accept it...

Why is it so far-fetched for you to believe the Wrangler could get a diesel engine as well?
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Unread 12-15-2013, 09:39 AM   #28
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Did not see them making it practical in price with all the emission laws. However I also am dealing with a lot larger scale of engines. Cost of all exhaust systems to burn clean is extremely expensive.
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With all due respect, large scale diesels are in a whole other league than "consumer level" diesels. Once you hit a certain GVWR, the whole game changes.
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Unread 12-15-2013, 01:39 PM   #30
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True but check horsepower and ft lbs of torque. Any modifications that work available? 2.5 liter doesn't do much for me. Again Volkswagen in a jeep. Any injector tuning or modifications the engine won't pass emissions. But for those whom want to pay more for diesel at the pump to say they have a diesel by all means go for it. Let me know how it works when the warranty runs out. Out of curiosity is there any road and track reviews or any such articles. I would be interested in reading them. Interesting concept non the less. Hope I am wrong so people whom want them get what they want as most keepers are hobby enthusiasts anyhow. At least I am. But when I get in it I expect to go to New York and back to California with the expense of gas and 1 oil change. I preference is the 4.0 straight six fuel injected. Mine has zero emissions and gets 22 mpg with 33x12.5r15 tires and a six speed manual trans. Jus are nice also. But at the time I purchased my latest jeep the 3.6 had all sorts of problems. Anyways my family isn't big enough for a limo jeep anyway. Interesting conversation. Thanks,
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