[li'l jeep]

Wasn't sure if anyone had the specs. I was able to find them. I think they're decently respectable:

Dimension
Weight
3900 lbs (est)

Length
191.2” (4858 mm)

Wheelbase
116” (2946 mm)

Front overhang
34.5” (878 mm)

Rear overhang
40.7” (1033 mm)

Max width
77.7” (1968 mm)

Height
69.3” (1761 mm)

Track
64.2”

Approach/
departure angle
27 Degrees/
33.5 Degrees

Couple
33” (838 mm)

Powertrain and Suspension
Engine
3.0L BLUETEC common-rail diesel

Horsepower
215 hp @ 4000 rpm

Torque
376 ft. lb @ 1600-2800 rpm

0-60 mph
9 seconds

1/4 Mile
15.7 seconds (top speed: 124 mph)

Range
300 miles

Drivetrain
4WD, 5-speed automatic

Suspension
Solid axle w/ 4 front bar links, 5 rear bar links

Tire size
305/45R22 33” (838 mm)

Wheel size
22” x 10”

Crawl Ratio
29:1 (3.73:1 axles)

[YB Normyl]

What if you base the next Commander on the Trailhawk, well you might get something like my photoshop. Gotta clean it up a little more.

[li'l jeep]

that looks pretty bad ***....i just hate the rear hatch of the commander........... :suicide: your pretty damn handy with that fotoshop

[ovrlnd]

if anyone on here thinks that daimler cares about Jeep heritage is sadly mistaken. IMO all they want to do is slowly bring the demise of the vehicle that defeated them. If you ask me the government should have stepped in and said "no foreign auto company will ever be allowed to produce the Jeep brand in any way shape or form. period." but then again take a look at all the ball-less bafoons in washington.
as for the trailhawk. looks more like a "Salonhawk" or "Snobhawk" or the previously mentioned "Mallhawk" it seems the DCX marketing approach of remarketing mercedes garbage failed "commander" as well as the current People Prefer Plastic that putrifies the current lineup. one thing is for certain
another jeep vehicle whose owners will be more concerned with sucking down the mocha double latte whilst yaking on the mp3 phone than waving to fellow Jeepers.

[li'l jeep]

I haven't been looking at plastic and body styling myself. Look at the ZJ the YJ. Their plastic moldings are but something to be taken off and replaced. The chasis on the trailhawk is basically the same as the JK. I saw the thing (and if my girlfriends would get the pics!!!) its a beefy chasis that can be well loved by off-roaders.

You may be right, it may appeal to mall riders. But there wouldn't be a company called Jeep if they didn't change their style. I'll agree, Liberty, Patriot, Compass, Commander (which probably won't be remodeled in '09 and dropped so I hear); not a fan of the market or the trucks. If this Trailhawk is things to come, then I'm glad jeeps gotten away from the aforementioned vehicles somewhat (as far as chasis). But in all honesty, how many people have the sole intention of offroading when buying a brand new jeep? I'm not saying there is noone out there, but there is a vast majority that plan to use it as a daily driver as well, at least for a little while. Not only that it is a handy capable vehicle that doesn't need to only go off road. My Gramps has an '05 Grand for my grandmother (i was angry). But he has it all set to tow the boat, waverunners, and his quad to the lake and hunting!

This thing, to me, seems a nice doubler. The styling (if turned into production) will hopefully be tuned down and more rugged. It probably handles as a nice driver but still has solid axles front and rear (which i am happy about!). It also probably handles excelent off-road. Maybe not rock-crawling in Moab or the Rubicon or Mud Slinging in the swamps of Louisiana, but what jeep today (completely stock!) can?

I'll agree that Jeep has gotten away from its roots. But if it still made the rough riding, solid axle, flat fenders that most in this whole forum know and love (including me), there wouldn't be much Jeep (if any) left today. That means anyone with a TJ, ZJ, WJ, or newer XJs wouldn't have their favorite jeep. Jeep should definately tone down their Mercedes look on everything (specially the New Grands and this Trailhawk Concept). they are relying too much on Benz's suspension in certain vehicles and euro styling. Thats why I am happy that Benz is getting rid of Chrysler. I can only hope that GM will buy them. I also only hope that if this concept does come into truition, its own Mercedes styling will be toned down. And for all any of us know, the Trailhawk was made only to start introducing the Bluetech 3.0L Diesel that is supposed to be hitting the Grands either 08 or 09 (i forget which).

[WJ Freak]

Originally Posted by YB Normyl

What if you base the next Commander on the Trailhawk, well you might get something like my photoshop. Gotta clean it up a little more.

Now that's what the Commander SHOULD have looked like! The Gladiator wheels look great too... The more I look at your PhotoChop, the more angry I get that DC didn't design the Commander EXACTLY like this!

I'm not sure which version I like better, more squared-off like yours, or my version:

[YB Normyl]

Yours would be more likely to happen than mine. Awesome!

[li'l jeep]

Thats what the Trailhawk should be. And that will hopefully be what the next grand is...sweet man!!!

[WJ Freak]

Thanks, Li'l Jeep! I hope you're right...

[IMYY4U]

I like the design of the SUV with an SRT-8 engine. But for offroading or grocery shopping, etc. I'm not bought on it.

[WJ Freak]

[Tri_X_Troll]

I kinda like it. It would get me to work in style in the rain, snow, and sun.

You're either a tool or have too mutch money if you are even going to take a $40,000 vehicle on anything more than a dirt road.

Base MSRP:$40,925


Furthermore, I have a serious beef with all of the tools that insist that Jeep is going soft and DC is making cars suited for dirt roads.

What the hell do you call a 1950 Jeepster? They've been making cars all along, you boneheads just ignore them.

[DT5150]

yuck.......

[li'l jeep]

If i had 40 thousand to spend on a car, i would take it on more than a dirt road. I mean why not? H1s are one of the most capable off roaders out there and they are about 80-100K. And if someone rolled onto the rubicon with one of them, it'd turn heads. So if i knew my truck that I bought for say 42K was more than capable for rubicon...u bet ure bottom dollar I'd be bringing it on there. But like u said thatd be if i had too much money. LoL.

I would love to see someone throw nasty meets on a Trailhawk and blast through mud, rocks, and dirt with it. Oh man, that'd be so cool to see that thing half submerged in a pond. HaHa. Gotta take off those street sneakers and get some workboots on it though. I dunno what they were thinkin with that!!!!!

[WJ Freak]

About the only thing the 2011 Grand has in common with the TrailHawk is elements of the interior...