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Unread 01-15-2007, 10:24 PM   #16
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Bravo! Bravo!

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I love jeep and what they used to be but more and more I hate the way they change the vehicles.... The 2 biggest things I hate about them?

-- Since the WJ's it seems that the grands are getting smaller. I'm sorry but if I wanted a small SUV with little to NO cargo space I would by a Wrangler or a lame Rav4. I want the mid to big size SUV... NOt something as big as an Expedition or Excursion. Even the new Explorers have more space than the previous models.


-- The other thing that drives me crazy is they seem to be getting less and less off road capable from the factory. (Excluding Rubicon anything).

I'm sorry but I like Jeeps original vision that every vehicle had good ground clearance and very capable.

Ok, rant over.

I couldn't agree with you more! What the "F" has happened to Jeep? The WK reminds me more of the Isuzu Axiom than my Grand Cherokee. And what's with that ugly, clunky Commander? It's "Trail Rated?!" For what? Dirt roads and construction zones? Both the WK and XK have lower ground clearance than an Escape! And what the hell is the necesity for a Patriot AWD and a Compass, in addition to the Liberty (Cherokee over-seas)?! I'd like to know why Jeep is choosing to expand in these ways, as oposed to producing the Gladiator, Hurricane and Rescue! Why, oh why can't they make THE RESCUE?!!!

If Jeep is going to allow Dieter Zetsche to *****-up the brand, they should insist on at least offering Rubicon versions of the WK, XK and KJ. If the next gen Grand Cherokee doesn't look like my version of the Trailhawk I posted here, it's either a beefed-up JK Unlimited Rubicon, or bye-bye Jeep.

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Unread 01-17-2007, 08:58 AM   #17
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Why don't they call that thing what it will really turn out to be:

The MALL HAWK.
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Unread 01-17-2007, 06:29 PM   #18
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While I would want taller glass on it instead of the chopped look it has I certainly can't complain about what is under the skin. It's a JK frame and suspension. What I think they are trying to present with this styling concept is ways to offer an open air feeling should the government step up and regulate out of existence soft tops, removable doors and folding windshields. Most of what people are listing as questionable items on the JK are there because they had to be to meet federal regulations. No more rear mounted fuel tanks. A front end designed for a softer impact with a pedestrian. But while they had to meet these requirements they still decided to beef up and upgrade many items on the JK. At least they are still trying to offer a rugged vehicle. With all the current and future regulations they could have just given up but they haven't.
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Unread 01-20-2007, 01:21 AM   #19
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Comparison pics

Here's a comparison with better pics:





Here are some shots from the Detroit show:





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Unread 01-20-2007, 03:58 PM   #20
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Here's a comparison with better pics:





Here are some shots from the Detroit show:





NO Clicks
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Unread 01-20-2007, 03:59 PM   #21
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The first picture actually makes me think that this may be a model to compete with the new Toy FJ?
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Unread 01-20-2007, 10:40 PM   #22
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Thanks again, Kevin!

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The first picture actually makes me think that this may be a model to compete with the new Toy FJ?
Wouldn't it be cool if they actually produced a version that looked like my PhotoChop? I would definitely buy one!

Thanks again for the click-free post!
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Unread 01-21-2007, 11:48 AM   #23
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Unread 01-22-2007, 01:01 PM   #24
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I really like this Jeep Community thing! I took pics out in Detroit on saturday!











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Unread 01-25-2007, 03:36 AM   #25
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hey, is that their infamous jeep waterfall in the background? I would love to see it in person heh
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Unread 01-26-2007, 08:43 PM   #26
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Wouldn't it be cool if they actually produced a version that looked like my PhotoChop? I would definitely buy one!


The chop is awesome, better proportionately than the concept. The Concept is too low and the Dodge wheels are too small.
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Unread 01-31-2007, 03:30 PM   #27
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Looks like the current grand cheerokee hooked up with a dodge magnum.
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Unread 01-31-2007, 05:42 PM   #28
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The chop is awesome, better proportionately than the concept. The Concept is too low and the Dodge wheels are too small.
Yes I agree but Looking at it again...the current fender line would have to be cut back or raised almost equivalent to the hood for those tires to not rub on the street much less off road.

However raising the fender line can be done. I have a show on my DVR by a company AEV: American Expedition Vehichles. Its pretty sick, they fit 37 inch tires on a Wrangler Unlimited with only a 2 inch BB style lift. they do this by having custom fab'ed Fenders that are taller, longer, wider but hold the stock form and they put them 3 inches higher. Also they put on a new hood, redo the back to a single 'World Door' and then throw a new 5.7 Hemi in it.
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Unread 02-06-2007, 04:59 PM   #29
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Latest report in the UK, Jeep were saying that this will be the styling cue for next Grand Cherokee and I am sorry to say this, but it will lose the solid axle.

I dont really seeing it hit production like it is as there are too many regulations that effect the shape of a vehicle now.

I have been told the shape change on the KJ bumpers was to help it score better in pedestrian crash tests

Slowly but surely Jeep are being swallowed by the DCX machine and are turning to mush in the process. Built for the masses with little regard for its heritage.
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Unread 02-07-2007, 01:09 AM   #30
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i think its better than the compass
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