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Unread 06-15-2012, 11:16 PM   #91
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I love jeeps and I understand what your saying but do you really think they will actually make a fiat based one? I hope not I would lose some respect for that one...it would just look so wrong in every way! Maybe if jeep started making go carts but until then please no

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Unread 06-16-2012, 12:22 AM   #92
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Maybe. Sahara and sport are great off-roaders. And a lot of people buy them not for going off-road. They just like the style. And they never use the 4x4 feature. So, what's the point of buying? Wrangler is not so good for everyday city driving to be honest.
That was my point.
You have to look at in another perspective. Jeep should not dummy down the Wrangler at all. They would be foolish if they did because they would not be able to seperate themselves from the rest of the car/suv market as easily. The Sahara and Rubicon models etc,are avaiailable because of the cool looks options (which I am sure we all can agree looks awesome) but Jeep has it because of the image it represents and what it does for Jeeps marketing andtheir pockets $$

Afterall, a Wrangler is a tough uniquely shaped vehicle that when you buy gives you a status, attention, prestige, toughness, capability and complete freedom. Kind of like what a bmw or porsche gives a guy or girl only for different reasons. (which we can all joke around about) As far as those idiots that never go off-roading with it who cares! It's probably better that they don't because they will only get in the way lol!

Right now the Wrangler factory is at 100% capacity which is great why? People are still buying American made vehicles and Amercians remained employed and hopefully it will stay there.

So the way I see it if someone is just mall cruisin with a Wrangler and never takes it off-road so what, it's their purchase they can do what they want with it. But you can them thank because that's more $$ going back to Jeep and not Honda or Toyota.

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Unread 06-18-2012, 07:12 AM   #93
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I love jeeps and I understand what your saying but do you really think they will actually make a fiat based one? I hope not I would lose some respect for that one...it would just look so wrong in every way! Maybe if jeep started making go carts but until then please no
There are Fiat-based Jeeps coming.

The smallest, the B-segment Jeep that may or may not be sold in North America will use a Fiat platform, likely the same one that underpins a number of small crossovers in Europe-probably the next iteration of the Fiat Mini platform.

The Liberty and Patriot/Compass will use the jointly-developed C-Wide platform that's debuting with the Dodge Dart. While it's developed from an Alfa Romeo platform, it's a joint engineering project between Fiat and Chrysler.

Larger Jeeps-Wrangler, Grand Cherokee, ect, will remain on Chrysler-developed platforms.

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You have to look at in another perspective. Jeep should not dummy down the Wrangler at all. They would be foolish if they did because they would not be able to seperate themselves from the rest of the car/suv market as easily. The Sahara and Rubicon models etc,are avaiailable because of the cool looks options (which I am sure we all can agree looks awesome) but Jeep has it because of the image it represents and what it does for Jeeps marketing andtheir pockets $$

Afterall, a Wrangler is a tough uniquely shaped vehicle that when you buy gives you a status, attention, prestige, toughness, capability and complete freedom. Kind of like what a bmw or porsche gives a guy or girl only for different reasons. (which we can all joke around about) As far as those idiots that never go off-roading with it who cares! It's probably better that they don't because they will only get in the way lol!

Right now the Wrangler factory is at 100% capacity which is great why? People are still buying American made vehicles and Amercians remained employed and hopefully it will stay there.

So the way I see it if someone is just mall cruisin with a Wrangler and never takes it off-road so what, it's their purchase they can do what they want with it. But you can them thank because that's more $$ going back to Jeep and not Honda or Toyota.

Sorry for a long response.
That's a good point. People have been buying CJs and Wranglers on style alone for decades. Thousands of people every year sacrifice some comfort for the fun and style of a Jeep and never take it anywhere rougher than a gravel road. This is not a new phenomenon, and one that's reproven generation after generation with Wrangler sales rising in direct proportion to the available comfort and utility. The JK will likely triple the TJ's annual sales numbers-certainly surpass double-by the end of its model run, and more than 60% of those are Unlimited models, which are both the most capable* vehicles that Jeep has ever made, and also the most comfortable and useful for an everyday driver.

*In terms of hard stats-A/D angles, articulation and flex, wheel clearance, power/weight ratio, ect. A JK Unlimited will whip a CJ-2 up and down any trail in the world that's wide enough-the JK's sole shortcoming-but, after 70+ years of technological advancement, I'd expect nothing less.
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Unread 06-19-2012, 11:34 PM   #94
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Good point, Poncherello. I agree.
Well, I really hope that Fiat based model (mini-jeep) won't be selling in the north America. I think it'll be good for Europe because street there are pretty narrow.
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