Originally Posted by Line58 View Post
There WAS an IFS/IRS 'Jeep' built, the Ford MUTT. However, it was purely a Ford design and, while it fits right in with old CJs, it isn't technically a Jeep. Additionally, the MUTT was used in Vietnam, not WWII.
Originally Posted by GrassLakeRon View Post
Here's the thing with utility Jeeps: Nobody wants them any more. They didn't stop making them arbitrarily, they've been superseded by, depending on the various roles, ATVs, UTVs, Gators, side-by-sides, mini-tractors and such.
Also, the average transaction price in America for a new car is $30,000. Most Wranglers retail below that, and ALL of them retail well within the 66% bell curve. Jeep appeals, monetarily, to, statistically speaking, every new car buyer in North America. Almost anybody who can afford a new car can afford a Wrangler, and those who can't just aren't worth pandering to.
Third, you assume that making a stripper Wrangler would actually make it cheaper. On Allpar, a former Jeep engineer who posts there estimated that just stripping out the carpet and replacing it with bedliner would be $750.
Sales, over the past 10 years, jumped significantly three times: In '03, when the LJ was introduced, in '07, when the 4-door Unlimited came out and '11, when the interior was revamped.
People who want small cars buy small cars. People who want Jeeps buy Jeeps. The lackluster sales of the Patriot and Compass show that there isn't much overlap.
There WAS a vehicle in North America that was basically a tiny, efficient, simple Wrangler-the Suzuki Samauri. It sold terribly. It still exists as the Suzuki Jimny overseas, and sells poorly there, too.
Besides, the JK is the most capable vehicle Jeep has ever produced. More torque at all points than the 4.0L, better power/weight ratio, better A/D angles, more ground clearance, cheaper and easier to modify...the list goes on.
And it's not just Jeeps. The new Durango outsells the old 2-to-1. The new Explorer outsells the old one 2-to-1.
And you're attributing the SUV sales drop to something completely inconsequential. Ever notice that gas got really, really expensive in the last 10 years? Blaming the sales drop on gadgets is like getting out of the shower, drying yourself off and saying that you're dry because you're standing on linoleum now, instead of...whatever your tub is made out of.
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