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Unread 11-25-2010, 08:17 PM   #1
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If you ran Jeep...

Post what you would do. I'm inspired by the recent issue of JP. Lets see how quickly this become a bash Chrysler fest, with lineups full of stripped down gas guzzlers. Anyways, here's mine:

1. Wrangler - basically keep as is (assuming Pentastar in 2012). No need for a Hemi, diesel would be cool, but I doubt it would add any sales. Add a diesel for the next gen (2017-ish) - might be expensive, but it will be fuel efficient, and help with CAFE. Diesel is not worth it now with the addition of the Pentastar, 5 years into a product. Oh, have OBA optional on all models.

2. Grand Cherokee - keep as is, it's new.

3. Liberty - replaced by a Cherokee based on the 4 door Wrangler. Take the JK chassis, add a body that looks like a XJ Cherokee. It has a fixed roof and part time 4WD to differentiate from the Wrangler.

4. Commander - already dead, no need to kill it again.

5. Patriot - dead. Possibly replaced by a small, cheap Samurai type vehicle with a trubo 4 cyl. Would need to do research to determine if enough demand.

6. Compass - Make it look like the concept, available as a shooting brake and wagon. Uses a turbo charged 4 cyl longitudinally mounted with 250-ish hp. When money allows, develop symmetrical AWD transmission like the Subarus have. It's a RWD tranny with a built in diff - excellent weight distribution w/o a t-case like the AWD BMW's and Audi's.

7. Gladiator - JK Unlimited based. Basically it looks just like the concept, but has a shorter wheelbase, and less chrome. Uses Pentastar V6.

8. Renegade/Liberty/Whatever - It's a limited edition pickup based on the WK2, with a small bed. Uses a lifted 4 wheel indep. suspension. Think F150 Raptor, but smaller, fully indep, and with a stick-shift. Powered by either a turbo or supercharged Pentastar, possibly a Hemi.

9. No fullsize trucks. Power Wagon is cool, but it would be too expensive to market it as a Jeep and differentiate it from the Ram. Fullsize trucks aren't especially trail worthy, unless you're in wide open spaces. It would be cool to see the UN drive Jeeps instead of Land Cruisers, but maybe they'll downsize to JK Unlimiteds eventually.

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Unread 11-25-2010, 08:34 PM   #2
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1. Wrangler - Drop the 4 door, make it an option for a V8 Hemi or diesel but only by special order and only in the rubi

2. Grand Cherokee - keep as is, it's new. < Agreed

3. Liberty - replaced by a Cherokee based on the 4 door Wrangler. No removable top, same options including the rubi option with HD axles

4. Patriot - Keep the same, I have one....its a nice little DD and get 28MPG

5. Compass - Dead

6. Renegade/Liberty/Whatever - Turn it into a small pickup, 4cyl std, 6cyl option.

7. Truck - Add a midsize pickup based on the Wrangler, same options including the rubi edition.
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Unread 11-26-2010, 05:54 PM   #3
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Starting from the bottom up:

Jeep Compass: Fiat Panda Cross-based mini-SUV, about the size of the old Suzuki Samauri. Preferably convertible, but not mandatory.

That, or something closer to the concept, an AWD wagon about the size of the Caliber to compete with the Subaru Outback and such. Give it a turbocharged SRT-4 version as a rally-type car. 2L diesel, 2.4L and 2.4L Turbo engines.

Jeep Patriot: Basically the same as the 2011s. Upgraded World Engine, rework the suspension for a bit more travel and offer FDII on the manual, and replace the CVT with the 8- or 9-speed auto. 2L diesel and 2.4L engines.

Jeep Cherokee: Wrangler Unlimited-based mid-size, basically a recreation of the old Cherokee, just BOF now. 3L diesel, 3.6L V6.

Jeep Wrangler/Unlimited: same as it is, just with new engines and a better automatic. 3L diesel, 3.6L V6.

Jeep Grand Cherokee:same as is now.

Jeep Gladiator: Stretched Unlimited wheelbase, single-cab and a pickup bed. Basically the same as the concept. 3L diesel, 3.6L V6.
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Unread 11-26-2010, 09:45 PM   #4
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Jeep would be positioned as the dominant force in truck and SUVs available today. The marketing strategy would be an in your face type of affair pushing Jeep as the most badass vehicles you can buy. The ad campaign and overall flavor of the marque would heavily target males--as a result many women will be drawn right to it. SRT models would be available on vehicles where a street biased performance machine could be based upon but Renegade would become the one to have for the offroad enthusiast and each model would have a Renegade variant. SRT and Renegade packages will offer mostly performance based upgrades, but styling would be upgraded as well with blackout hood panels and trim, retro coke bottle mag style wheels and the whole vehicle would have a bit of a muscle car type flavor.

Wrangler: Pentastar V-6 standard with Hemi and diesel as standalone upgrade options with manual trannys available. Pickup variants in single and crew cab SUTs. Renegade package supplants Sahara/Rubicon as the top of the line model, but is positioned as an ultimate performance and offroading machine. No more color-keyed hardtops, and an interior in all black is finally available.

Liberty: Pentastar V-6 stamdard, diesel optional. Renegade package looks much like the Liberator concept from SEMA a few years ago. Factory 4" suspension lift with heavier running gear and manual tranny available on Renegade only.

Grand Cherokee: Diesel engine option and SRT-8 gets 6.4 Hemi with available Kenne-Belle supercharger making for one of the most badass street machines ever built. Renegade package gets 4" factory lift with heavy duty offroad package, similar to some of the SEMA concepts.


Patriot/Compass: Only one car-based CUV remains. Gets major styling overhaul using the Compass' basic bodystyle, keeps the fake 2-door look, but gets front clip similar to GC (like the spy shots). Rally/street version gets SRT-4 designation with AWD, and the Caliber SRT-4 engine mated to standard 5spd manual. Jeep fields a WRC version to compete with Subaru, Mini, on rally circuit. Renegade version gets taller suspension, Patriot's dual range xfer case, optional lower pressure turbo. Of course, lower level models remain.

Commander--dead.
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Unread 11-26-2010, 09:58 PM   #5
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Jeep Compass: junk kill it


Jeep Patriot: junk kill it

Jeep Grand Cherokee: add US diesel option, strip the independent suspension and replace it with solid axles the way it should be.

Jeep Wrangler/Unlimited: keep them the same for the most part, but add a v8 hemi standard and make a diesel a option.


Jeep Gladiator: this should be a full size truck. 1/2 ton pickup that looks smiler to the wrangler front end, bed in the rear. engine options should be a 6.1L hemi or 6.7L cummins turbo diesel.

Jeeps should not be areo dynamic or fuel efficient. they are suppose to be gas guzzling, off-roading, bricks!
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Unread 11-26-2010, 10:43 PM   #6
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I wish someone smart ran jeep, once, just once.

how come the s10 blazer got a frame and the xj is unijunk ?
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Unread 11-27-2010, 12:03 PM   #7
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I think it'd be cool to "do away" with the wrangler unlimited, keep the same body and frame but use the nukaiser front end and rebadge it Cherokee.

I would also build the nukaiser as-is but badge it Comanche.

The patriot- while not my style would stay as-is.

The compass- kill it, crush the ones that are left and burn any documents that show it ever existed.
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Unread 11-27-2010, 12:23 PM   #8
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Keep the nukaiser as the concept is- engine options 4.7, hemi and diesel
The wrangler can stay as-is but add a hemi/diesel option
The grand cherokee- remains as is
The patriot can stay, but make it more sporty (like stated above) I like the idea of a fast Jeep lol
Liberty- keep as is for marketing reasons
The quality of all products will be second to none and the new marketing strategy will reflect that.
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Unread 11-29-2010, 03:55 PM   #9
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how come the s10 blazer got a frame and the xj is unijunk ?
Because it was lighter, stronger and allowed the Cherokee to handle better.
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Unread 11-30-2010, 01:30 PM   #10
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Because it was lighter, stronger and allowed the Cherokee to handle better.
Lighter, yes. Stronger, not a chance. Sure unitized bodies may eliminate a lot of the rattles and squeaks of a body-on-frame design, but they are NOT meant for heavy duty applications. Thats why fullsize rigs, and Wranglers use full frame designs. Theyre generally much more hardcore vehicles and are subjected to more punishment. Over time, unitized vehicles tend to sag in the doors and a bad tweak in the wrong spot and that thing is finished. They dont have the longevity.
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Unread 11-30-2010, 05:12 PM   #11
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Lighter, yes. Stronger, not a chance. Sure unitized bodies may eliminate a lot of the rattles and squeaks of a body-on-frame design, but they are NOT meant for heavy duty applications. Thats why fullsize rigs, and Wranglers use full frame designs. Theyre generally much more hardcore vehicles and are subjected to more punishment. Over time, unitized vehicles tend to sag in the doors and a bad tweak in the wrong spot and that thing is finished. They dont have the longevity.
Obviously you have never been to MOAB, the XJs are doing everything the body-on-frame units are-with no more damage than anything else!
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Unread 02-25-2011, 11:42 AM   #12
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I think the Wrangler should have a V8 & Diesel option, the wife's 4.7 gets better mileage than my Rubicon, and with the 8's that drop to 4's on the hiways, they should do a LOT better than the 6's.

Also the idiots that thought of putting cloth seats in a open vehicle & moved the mirrors from the windshield to the doors should be fired & their MISTAKES fixed!
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Unread 02-25-2011, 07:06 PM   #13
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Also the idiots that thought of putting cloth seats in a open vehicle & moved the mirrors from the windshield to the doors should be fired & their MISTAKES fixed!
Yes x1000
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Unread 02-25-2011, 07:33 PM   #14
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I think the Wrangler should have a V8 & Diesel option, the wife's 4.7 gets better mileage than my Rubicon, and with the 8's that drop to 4's on the hiways, they should do a LOT better than the 6's.

Also the idiots that thought of putting cloth seats in a open vehicle & moved the mirrors from the windshield to the doors should be fired & their MISTAKES fixed!
Everything you said! You sound like a G.D. genius to me!
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Unread 02-27-2011, 09:55 PM   #15
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With fuel jumping to $ 5.00 and above, offer me one of those Jeep Panda's. that list for around $15,000 and gets 38 mpg ,also give me off road tires as standard , and that 1.3 turbo diesel that gets over 60 mpg, would be a nice option for me to consider.
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