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Unread 01-27-2014, 09:15 PM   #1
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IDEA Jeep Wrangler XJ

I think Jeep should just make a unibody XJ like SUV on the wrangler platform.

Think about it, on a JKU platform with a unibody frame (hybrid of JKU and XJ).
This would be VERY well received. Branding would be easy. Just call it the Jeep Wrangler XJ.

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Unread 01-27-2014, 09:24 PM   #2
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I personally have never had good luck with unibody vehicles, one of which being a cherokee..

the unibody always seems to rot away and there's nothing left to weld a patch to like you can a c channel or box frame..

Just my thoughts but I'd like to hear why you think the unibody is the way to go..
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Unread 01-27-2014, 09:34 PM   #3
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My next Jeep will be a 2door Wrangler. However there are alot of people who like unibody and the old XJ and with the Cherokee name being spoiled I think this would be a suitable replacement. Its build on a very capable platform with 2 solid axles
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I personally would love to see an "XJ kit" for the JK. One where you swap the front body panels for some classic Cherokee ones. That would be something.
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Unread 01-28-2014, 10:51 AM   #5
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The current body on frame removable top Wrangler will not meet NVH (noise, vibration, harshness) standards for an enclosed passenger vehicle.
It would also cost and weight prohibitive to design it both for body on frame and unibody. The two systems just aren't compatible.

Now whether the next generation Wrangler is being designed to meet NVH for an enclosed vehicle is another question.
But even if it is you are still looking at only body on frame or unibody. Not both.
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I think the JKU is a fine alternative to the beloved XJ if fans of the Cherokee are wanting a new vehicle that's comparable. Just buy a hard top and never remove it! As for unibody vs BOF I feel the Jeep unibody design is stronger than a lot of BOF vehicles, especially older Jeeps. It's just a lot harder to repair for the average joe when it inevitably wears out. They're almost considered expendable or even disposable by today's standards.
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I think they should've just named the JKU Cherokee. It's more what people have in mind than the KL when you mention the name Cherokee. When the time comes, I'll be replacing my XJ with a JKU. It's the next best (or better) thing.
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I think they should've just named the JKU Cherokee. It's more what people have in mind than the KL when you mention the name Cherokee. When the time comes, I'll be replacing my XJ with a JKU. It's the next best (or better) thing.
Best or better?

No optional 242 type transfer case. Less usable or harder to use cargo space. Much larger and much heavier. Yes a new unibody is heavier than the old XJ but not as heavy as the body on frame Wrangler.
Unibody construction allowed the XJ to have the same ground clearance as the YJ/TJ but with a lower ride height and lower roof height.

I could live with the cargo, size and weight issues but a Select-Trac transfer case is a must for me.
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How about the next gen Wrangler split to 2 platforms:

Keep the 4-door on the current wide frame + add a pickup model.

Change the 2-Door back to TJ frame width, have std. 2-Door + Unlimited wheelbases.
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How about the next gen Wrangler split to 2 platforms:

Keep the 4-door on the current wide frame + add a pickup model.

Change the 2-Door back to TJ frame width, have std. 2-Door + Unlimited wheelbases.
Not even slightly financially or technically feasible. Creating a narrower SWB Wrangler would be essentially the same as a creating a completely different vehicle.
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I could live with the cargo, size and weight issues but a Select-Trac transfer case is a must for me.
I remember a rumor floating around that the next Wrangler would have an optional Selec-Trac type 4wd system. I would buy one in a heartbeat, especially after moving from an XJ w/ Command Trac to a ZJ w/ Selec-Trac to now a KK w/ Command Trac II.

You cannot beat having the option of full time 4x4 without sacrificing 4x4 part time or 2wd.
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