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Unread 04-26-2011, 06:29 PM   #31
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Diesel is more expensive than gasoline in most of the country. The difference in fuel economy would have to be pretty extreme to make up the difference in price, not to mention the higher up front purchase price. It's one thing if you're talking about a diesel VW Jetta that gets 55mpg, it's quite another for a diesel Jeep Wrangler that may get 25mph on a good day (not unrealistic based on the diesel Liberty and diesel Grand Cherokee's mpg ratings).
A buddy of mine ran diesel for a lot of years. He never figured he would have to make the switch to gas, but he just did with his new truck. He said he feels sorry for the guys shelling out the dollars for diesel.

Honestly, I think they'll have us bend over and take it, no matter what the engine runs on.

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Unread 04-26-2011, 08:12 PM   #32
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Most my sig gets 6-9mpg except the MJ-Comanche which floats between 14-16mpg, I'm happy with a 15mpg drive myself.

I owned many 18-25mpg vehicles they last me about 5-7months then get recycled or replaced due to annoyance or lack of durability . . . I'd rather have a 10mpg rig in can trust over a 20mpg rig I can't . . .

I had a diesel K2500 got 19-22mpg, it also broke down once a week at 139K-miles I gave it away and replaced it with Comanche and I don't miss the 20mpg diesel a bit.

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Unread 05-25-2011, 02:16 PM   #33
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Here are some interesting specs on the diesel Wrangler available in the UK:
http://www.jeep.co.uk/wrangler/specs/performance

2dr Sport - 28/36 for city/hwy or 33mpg combined
2dr Sahara - 24/33 for city/hwy or 29mpg combined
Aren't those UK gallons? That 33mpg is really 27.5mpg and the 29 is 24
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Unread 05-25-2011, 02:53 PM   #34
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Yay well even at 30mpg fuel cost and purchase cost wouldn't really make the thing worth while, You wouldn't save any MONEY . . . Ya might fuel up 1 time less a month, It might last 100K-Miles more maybe.

But figuring the average Jeep lasts 20yrs but the average buyer replaces them every 5yrs what's the point over all ? ? The extra 10yrs a diesel will last over the gasser you'll never use anyway ! ! !

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Unread 05-25-2011, 04:59 PM   #35
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Aren't those UK gallons? That 33mpg is really 27.5mpg and the 29 is 24
Actually no, those are the converted figures from the site (given in liters per 100km) over to US standard miles per gallon. Hence 7.1 L/100km = 33mpg and so forth.
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Unread 05-30-2011, 09:44 AM   #36
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buy jeep for its original design...General Purpose! they were cheap, easy to work on and lasted forever no matter what you put it through. gas mileage was the last thing they worried about and functionality was first.
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Unread 05-31-2011, 02:23 AM   #37
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buy jeep for its original design...General Purpose! they were cheap, easy to work on and lasted forever no matter what you put it through. gas mileage was the last thing they worried about and functionality was first.
Right because fuel is unlimited in a war right?


I'm sick of internet n00bs claiming gas mileage doesn't matter because "it's a Jeep". Efficiency IS functionality.


Last I checked there are no ****ing gas stations on the trail.
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Unread 05-31-2011, 03:31 PM   #38
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Right because fuel is unlimited in a war right?


I'm sick of internet n00bs claiming gas mileage doesn't matter because "it's a Jeep". Efficiency IS functionality.


Last I checked there are no ****ing gas stations on the trail.
last i checked there are troops that drive tankers for fuel...am i wrong? from the 1st internal combustion engine until the mid 1970s nobody really worried about MPGs (maybe in foriegn contries but this is america...land of the consumers!). it was how fast, how much HP and torque, and will it last. and lets not forget they are fighting in the same country that we get our oil from...its about endless there. sorry you dont carry a few jerry cans with you on the trail...i do! so stick that in your nOOb pipe and smoke it!!!

Edit: oh i see now...stick to your island out there that is barely america and leave the keys to your jeep for a real american to drive and use correctly
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Unread 06-21-2011, 09:08 AM   #39
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sure enough gas prices will fall to below $3.00 and everybody will forget about MPG
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