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post #16 of 39 Old 03-07-2011, 08:11 PM
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Based on what? No factory diesel Jeep has ever been rated higher than 25mpg. What makes you think they'll suddenly take an enormous leap up to 35mpg? A Wrangler is shaped like a brick, not exactly conducive to high mpg.
what factory jeep? the liberty;way more of a brick than a wrongler. the diesel cherokees of the eighties using older than dirt tech? why wouldnt it? stock, i can see it happening.

vw rates it jetta as 42mpg. people are reporting 55mpgs+ with conservative driving. hell theres a guy on a diesel site getting 30+ with an isuzu box truck motor in a late sixties f-100, so i dont see 35mpg's out of a stock wrangler oilburner a problem. maybe not epa rated, but definitely doable


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post #17 of 39 Old 03-07-2011, 08:28 PM
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Based on what? No factory diesel Jeep has ever been rated higher than 25mpg. What makes you think they'll suddenly take an enormous leap up to 35mpg? A Wrangler is shaped like a brick, not exactly conducive to high mpg.
Not true. Our overseas friends say the diesel xj gets low 30's, and it'd be easy to see, they're so light.

The car industry is seriously flawed.

All this new technology is making cars much bigger, bulkier, and HEAVY.

No wonder the liberty vs the xj is like a 800 pound difference. We need lighter vehicles built to last, with small diesels.

I would kill to have a vw diesel in my xj. Best of both worlds.

I work on Mopars
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post #18 of 39 Old 03-07-2011, 09:11 PM
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Based on what? No factory diesel Jeep has ever been rated higher than 25mpg. What makes you think they'll suddenly take an enormous leap up to 35mpg? A Wrangler is shaped like a brick, not exactly conducive to high mpg.
Aerodynamics are a factor, but then so is the fact that they keep putting underpowered engines in them such as 4 and 6 cyls that struggle to maintain freeway speeds. You put an efficient turbodiesel or a V-8 of around 5 liters in it and you'll shove that brick right thru a headwind with little penalty, possibly an increase in mpg and have power to spare. The flex fuel 4.7 would be just about right for the Wrangler. Why get 20 mpg with a wheezing minivan V-6 that has no power when you can get 20 mpg with a V-8 that can haul ***, and sound badass with a pair of flowmasters on it. Or get near 30 mpg with a 4cyl oil burner and have the torque to pull a building down.
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post #19 of 39 Old 03-08-2011, 10:16 AM
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Based on what? No factory diesel Jeep has ever been rated higher than 25mpg. What makes you think they'll suddenly take an enormous leap up to 35mpg? A Wrangler is shaped like a brick, not exactly conducive to high mpg.

Those diesel are made for torque and power not great fuel economy. If you want 35mpg, get a Volkswagen TDI Clean Diesel or something.
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post #20 of 39 Old 03-08-2011, 10:49 AM
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Those diesel are made for torque and power not great fuel economy. If you want 35mpg, get a Volkswagen TDI Clean Diesel or something.
what? that doesnt make any sense

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post #21 of 39 Old 03-08-2011, 10:58 AM
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if a diesel JK wrangler comes to the US, think MOPAR will sell crate motors/ 6spd's? Im sure someone will come out with the motor mounts. I would love to swap out the 2.5L in my 2000 TJ for a factory diesel.
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post #22 of 39 Old 03-08-2011, 11:06 AM
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post #23 of 39 Old 03-08-2011, 02:31 PM
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i have accepted that my 4.0 is a gass guzzler. if your looking for good gas mileage then go buy a toyota. you dont buy a jeep for the gas mpg... you buy a jeep to go rock crawlin (i dont like the new jeeps so much)
Ya exactly. And that I6 has been in the wrangler for decades (im pretty sure) so basically your running an engine from the 60s and engines have obviously come a long way since then. Kinda makes me wonder why it took them so long to put a different engine in
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post #24 of 39 Old 03-08-2011, 04:07 PM
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what factory jeep? the liberty;way more of a brick than a wrongler. the diesel cherokees of the eighties using older than dirt tech? why wouldnt it? stock, i can see it happening.
Liberty 2.8 CRD rated at 19 city 24 hwy. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm

Grand Cherokee 3.0 CRD rated at 17 city 22 hwy http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm

I'm afraid 35mpg is a naive pipedream.
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post #25 of 39 Old 03-08-2011, 08:23 PM
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post #26 of 39 Old 04-25-2011, 10:54 PM
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Here are some interesting specs on the diesel Wrangler available in the UK:
http://www.jeep.co.uk/wrangler/specs/performance

2dr Sport - 28/36 for city/hwy or 33mpg combined
2dr Sahara - 24/33 for city/hwy or 29mpg combined

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post #27 of 39 Old 04-25-2011, 11:04 PM
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Look for a MAJOR redesign in the wrangler in the next few years, you like the Hyundai Santa Fe? Wait till you see the wrangler

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post #28 of 39 Old 04-26-2011, 06:10 AM
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Yep little diesels are nice, Had a Chevette with a diesel averaged 45mpg. It also maxed put at 67mph and took its sweet time to get there.

I'd hate to see the Wrangler destroyed in the pursuit of fuel mileage
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post #29 of 39 Old 04-26-2011, 06:19 AM
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For all I care they can put a big block in them that gets 4 mpg. I'm rocking my yukon everyday $283 in gas this weekend at 11 mpg. Go ahead and raise to $5 a gallon I'll still drive it just to make the greenies get upset. However I do plan on picking up an old jetta Diesel this weekend. 55 mpg. But I'll crank the injection up just to piss the greenies off still.
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post #30 of 39 Old 04-26-2011, 06:32 AM
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I hear ya, Everything I have get's 6-9Mpg's most of which burn 93-Oct a few guzzle 110-Oct
Fuel too . . . Except the MJ it floats between 14-16mpg's

The MJ is the first Econo truck I have had that actually has lasted me most live a few months n get crushed this thing is about to enter its third year of service

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