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Unread 10-11-2008, 08:57 AM   #1
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GM/Chrysler Merger under discussion

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Unread 10-11-2008, 01:49 PM   #2
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so, maybe we can get a wrangler with an LS3, stock?
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Unread 10-11-2008, 10:08 PM   #3
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It sounds like this is far from a done deal, and there are some big hurdles to overcome if they do decide to merge. Both companies have money loosing product lines that are overloaded with SUVs and pickup trucks, so if they combined they would be even more overloaded with money loosing product lines. But by combining they could hopefully cut production cost, and perhaps labor cost. Maybe that would be enough to make them profitable again.

I like both of their products, and we've certainly done our part to help keep both companies in business. Right now our garage has a 2004 Jeep Wrangler, a 2007 GMC Canyon pickup, a 2007 GMC Sierra pickup, a 2008 GMC Canyon pickup, and a 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8. If everyone drove what we drive neither of these companies would be in trouble

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Unread 10-11-2008, 11:11 PM   #4
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I like both of their products, and we've certainly done our part to help keep both companies in business. Right now our garage has a 2004 Jeep Wrangler, a 2007 GMC Canyon pickup, a 2007 GMC Sierra pickup, a 2008 GMC Canyon pickup, and a 2008 Dodge Challenger SRT8. If everyone drove what we drive neither of these companies would be in trouble

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Ouch!! That is a large selection of vehicles. What does it take to fill them up? $700/wk?

I'd be broke...
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Unread 10-13-2008, 07:33 AM   #5
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I think you are making an incorrect assumption that because I purchased American automobiles that I need to pay more money for fuel. Unfortunately that is the opinion that a lot of Americans have, and it is false. The GMC Canyon pickup trucks have higher fuel economy ratings than Toyota Tacoma pickup trucks do. And the GMC Sierra pickup trucks have higher fuel economy ratings that the Toyota Tundra pickup trucks do.

Because I own American vehicles does not mean that I spend any more on fuel than an average person does. The GMC Sierra is used to tow a fifth wheel trailer, and only gets used a few times a year. The Jeep is used infrequently as well. The Challenger is a collectors car, and is rarely driven to church on sundays, or to a car show. One of our GMC Canyon pickup trucks gets as much as 25 mpg highway, and the other routinely gets 27 mpg highway. So even with American vehicles in the garage, fuel cost are no worse than for most people.
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Unread 10-13-2008, 07:03 PM   #6
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I think you are making an incorrect assumption that because I purchased American automobiles that I need to pay more money for fuel. Unfortunately that is the opinion that a lot of Americans have, and it is false. The GMC Canyon pickup trucks have higher fuel economy ratings than Toyota Tacoma pickup trucks do. And the GMC Sierra pickup trucks have higher fuel economy ratings that the Toyota Tundra pickup trucks do.

Because I own American vehicles does not mean that I spend any more on fuel than an average person does. The GMC Sierra is used to tow a fifth wheel trailer, and only gets used a few times a year. The Jeep is used infrequently as well. The Challenger is a collectors car, and is rarely driven to church on sundays, or to a car show. One of our GMC Canyon pickup trucks gets as much as 25 mpg highway, and the other routinely gets 27 mpg highway. So even with American vehicles in the garage, fuel cost are no worse than for most people.

I think he means that if you drive them every day 7 days a week or someone in your family does then you must pay alot for fuel. Either way sounds like a sweet lineup of vehicles.
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Unread 10-13-2008, 07:35 PM   #7
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maybe we can see a jeep with a factory warranty with a drop in LS7 thatd be really sweet
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Unread 10-14-2008, 08:29 AM   #8
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What about Hummer Vs. Jeep? If they become siblings they may loose competitiveness with each other. Hummer is messed up now without the civilian H1 anyway.
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Unread 10-14-2008, 02:44 PM   #9
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i dont see a problem with jeep and hummer getting along. as long as there isnt any platform sharing.

the H3 is actually a really good 4x4. even more so now that it has a V8 option (5 cylinder*shudders*)
the current H2 may still be the ultimate posermobile... but i see some sweet, worthwhile hummers coming down the pipe

mainly the Hx(4) and the eventual H1 (its coming, dont hold your breath, they're in no hurry. but its still in the pipeline!)

that being said, I would really like to see jeep doing what GM does, which is giving its customers the cars and trucks they ask for. with the engines they wanted. as soon as they can!

im sick of one pisspoor engine and no truck.
jeep knows we want them, knows they would sell a healthy amount. but doesnt want to spend the time to actually tool up for it.(I'm guessing)

jeep seems to disrespect its core demographic. which is odd. since we all seem to want the same thing!
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The Jeep engineers want to build what we want, the Chrysler marketing people want them to build what they think they can sell the most of. So they compromise and build JKs.
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Unread 10-14-2008, 06:01 PM   #11
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The Jeep engineers want to build what we want, the Chrysler marketing people want them to build what they think they can sell the most of. So they compromise and build JKs.
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now i must type more, because each post must be over 10 characters!
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Unread 10-15-2008, 05:08 PM   #12
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The Jeep engineers want to build what we want, the Chrysler marketing people want them to build what they think they can sell the most of. So they compromise and build JKs.
So build the JK as it is, but give us the option of a V8 or a diesel. I guess I don't get it.
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Unread 10-15-2008, 06:05 PM   #13
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exactly, all we want is a choice... something chevy has no problem giving their customers!

and if you want proof of that walk into a chevy dealership and find out how many differant ways you can get an HHR.

options... they are not as hard as you think.

and i dont even need a V8! chevy has several V6 engines that I'd be happy with!
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Unread 10-17-2008, 05:49 PM   #14
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That merger could affect their truck lines, just like when chrysler took over Jeep and axed the pickups due to redundancy. I'd hate to see the Ram go. Mine has been a good truck and the hemi is a nice engine. I could see some trimming of the full size SUV's though, especially with the upcoming tighter EPA regulations on fuel economy.

I've had three GM products, including an 86 century, cavalier, and canyon, all were good vehicles. Plus the Ram I have now, which I love. Even the F-150 I had for a while was nice.
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Unread 10-18-2008, 06:17 PM   #15
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GM may have other motives for acquiring Chrysler /Jeep

http://www.jeepnewsnow.com/modules/n...p?storyid=3022

Keep Jeep and eventually close down the rest of the company, eliminating one of their chief competitors and reduce some excess capacity, sad but Jeep is probably the only piece of Chrysler that GM really wants or needs.
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