[slow2run]

Check out the Fiat iveco jeep massif and truck at www.youtube.com] , just type iveco massif ,should they come to the wrangler brand ? CAB

[Kenbo-Slice]

I can overlook the ugly headlights. It has a solid front axle so I'm sold. I would drive it around. I wan't to see the interior.

[slow2run]

Kenbo, it would have a jeep front , and other improvements if customers want the massif's jeeps stateside, just do a search for current interior . CAB

[EugeneTheTJ]

If the tailgate folds all the way down like that, where they hell are you supposed to put your beer

[LostJeeper]

just saw the web page real locking hubs. They would have to make it US spec.

[5.9 ANDY]

i like it....

check out the suspension... leaf springs F&R, both are leaf under, so there is an ez way to lift it off the bat.

[winkosmosis]

Full size Jeep anyone??

Put some woodgrain on the sides, give it some better styling, and call it a Wagoneer.

[winkosmosis]

IVECO massif - Expedition Portal Forum

[Jones]

If they changed the grille and headlights I'd like it. If not, no thank you.

[Bojeepus]

the interior looks some what similar to a jk

[PatriotWhite21]

It reminds Me of the Land Rover Defender 110, 130

Different rims and tire maybe some 20" machine finished rims and 35" tire, but i think it looks cool and if it is a solid front and rear axle i would definitely purchase one.

Just looked at more pics of it I would purchase it if it makes it to the US market at the right price

http://www.4x4.co.il/forum/ForumImages/600iveco_massif.jpg

http://www.roadtransport.com/blogs/big-lorry-blog/RAI%20Show%20006.jpg

[theducksguts]

It's ok, with a Jeep grill it would be livable. Just another option for the future. I bet the leafs and manual hubs would go and it would need at least 60 more cup holders and a Nav system.

[-Zona-]

It's like a JK Unlimited ****ed a Land Rover and gave birth to that....thing.

[Carlos_I]

The Iveco Massif is not actually as exciting as it sounds. It is based on a spanish Santana PS-10:

File:Santana ps-10 pu front offroad.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Santana PS-10 is built by a company, who used to build Land Rover Defender under license. Santana PS-10 was based on the Defender. Which has a very crap reliability.

The engine on the Massif is though probably nice, 3.0 diesel, it's taken from an Iveco delivery truck, so should be solid, durable, reliable, even though not very powerful. But I'd still rather have the Mercedes diesel, which is currently in my Commander.

So, in my opinion the Massif doesn't have anything what the Jeep couldn't make themselves. A british design, redesigned by the spanish, redesigned by the italians. The foundations could be stronger, if you ask me. A pair of shoes with that history would be undoubtedly fantastic, but a car? I'd rather pass.

All Jeep needs, is to make the JK a bit more aggressive. It has all the basics covered already (at least the Rubi). On the side, finetune the Commander a bit and keep it in production.

The only thing missing from the Jeep lineup, would be a really small one, which apparently is coming as a joint effort with Fiat.

So it all looks good to me, no worries!

[Deezelweazel]

I don't like half true reports.
The Massif is built on the former assembly line of the Santana. But it has nothing in common with it.

The Massif is built for industrial (military)use:

Two engines are available:
3.0 HPI 107kw/ 146hp 350Nm torque
3.0 HPT 129kw/ 179hp 400Nm torque

6speed Overdrive gear by ZF 6S400
A/C,and Leather interior available,
AT235/85R16 tires by factory, MT by option,

It is available as 5door Station, 3dr Station and Pick-up

Got a ride with it- It's powerful and fun to drive. But you can see the main use is for work.

It is way more capable than a Commander...