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Unread 02-27-2011, 02:24 PM   #31
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I hope so too. I just looked at teh Jeep page for France through Google Translate and indeed see the specs. Here they are as the translations presented them:

"The new turbo diesel common-rail 2.8-liter (Euro V) to filter particles from the New Wrangler develops 200 bhp DIN, with a torque of 410 Nm (BVM) - 460 Nm (BVA). It is associated with a manual 6-speed on all finishes and has the Stop & Start system. A new sequential automatic transmission 5 speed is optional on Sahara and Rubicon finishes. The new engine offers all the power and all the torque needed to drive all-new engine allows terrain.Ce New Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited to benefit from a reduction in CO2 emissions and lower fuel consumption (by example: consumption combined (l/100km) Wrangler 2.8 CRD FAP manual gearbox: 8.1)".

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Unread 02-27-2011, 05:28 PM   #32
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Note the 2.8 is being replaced by the new 3.0 VM diesel, for full info on this turbo diesel that gets 28 mpg in the GC and 407 lbs torque at 1800 to 2800 rpm, at 4000 rpm it produces 241 HP. go to http://www.greencarcongress.com look under other resent items for Jeep GRAND CHEROKEE to offer new 3.0 turbo diesel. It should come to the states by 013
after it certified , but only if customers want it, would buy a Jeep JK diesel if its fuel cost $5.80 per gal?
Note : VM Motori is now jointly owned by GM and FIAT.
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Unread 02-27-2011, 05:31 PM   #33
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I hope so too. I just looked at teh Jeep page for France through Google Translate and indeed see the specs. Here they are as the translations presented them:

"The new turbo diesel common-rail 2.8-liter (Euro V) to filter particles from the New Wrangler develops 200 bhp DIN, with a torque of 410 Nm (BVM) - 460 Nm (BVA). It is associated with a manual 6-speed on all finishes and has the Stop & Start system. A new sequential automatic transmission 5 speed is optional on Sahara and Rubicon finishes. The new engine offers all the power and all the torque needed to drive all-new engine allows terrain.Ce New Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited to benefit from a reduction in CO2 emissions and lower fuel consumption (by example: consumption combined (l/100km) Wrangler 2.8 CRD FAP manual gearbox: 8.1)".
Note: the 2.8 is not a new engine, and is being replace by the new 3.0L Motori /fiat/GM turbo V6 diesel.
Note: Motori is now owned 50/50 by GM and Fiat.
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Unread 02-28-2011, 09:58 AM   #34
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Here in France, the 2.8VM diesel is the common motor in the Wrangler (fuel consumption is better), the V6 model is much more expensive (and higher consumption ) and could only be buy in JEEP dealer on special purchase order . Generally in Europe (except Switzerland) price of gasoline (for V6) is also more expensive than fuel due to the fact that nearly European trucks have diesel. More the torque is much better in the diesel than in V6.
But in 2014 all European Diesel in new cars must be much cleaner (specially regarding Nox) i think we will have similar emissions as in US therefore JEEP will have to put a much cleaner Diesel in JEEP models or a much better V6 ( lower consumption).
I assume that FIAT will put in JEEP a cleaner Diesel in this case they will certainly be able to pass also American emissions . I hope it will be a reliable diesel .
Exactly! I knew that diesels in Europe would level out to the North American standard. They have the same fuel its only a matter of time before they retool over there and makes diesels with the same emission standards. Ether way, I do see a diesel Jeep or two with in the next three to five years. No one better to do it then a joint Euro-American company. We have the tools and the talent, now we need to know the time in which it will be done.

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Unread 02-28-2011, 09:59 AM   #35
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Note: the 2.8 is not a new engine, and is being replace by the new 3.0L Motori /fiat/GM turbo V6 diesel.
Note: Motori is now owned 50/50 by GM and Fiat.
Penksi has no stake in them anymore?
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Unread 02-28-2011, 10:52 PM   #36
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Remark: in europe the Wrangler has still the 2.8 turbo diesel.
Jeep will put the 3.0l during 2011 only in Grand Cherokee.
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Unread 03-01-2011, 11:38 AM   #37
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We will have the 3.0 diesel by 013, if we have a demand with its fuel at $ 5.00 or more?
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Unread 03-01-2011, 01:20 PM   #38
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Remark: in europe the Wrangler has still the 2.8 turbo diesel.
Jeep will put the 3.0l during 2011 only in Grand Cherokee.
Yes, I quoted the official Jeep page, so I think (or hope) they would have their info straight on which engine was in their line..
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Unread 03-01-2011, 01:23 PM   #39
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We will have the 3.0 diesel by 013, if we have a demand with its fuel at $ 5.00 or more?
As long as gasoline prices move in tandem with diesel as it has historically, it should remain all relative.
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Unread 03-01-2011, 01:23 PM   #40
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if i ever get rid of my 4 banger i'm putting in a cummins 4bt. it's a 4 cyl turbo diesel
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Unread 03-01-2011, 06:40 PM   #41
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ya, but they shake like a motherfocker tho. but therese the legendary c.r. ones too, but not as available yet
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