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Unread 06-08-2008, 09:00 AM   #1
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DIESEL and JEEP JK

OK short and sweet. Cannot use MB 3.0 because of expense of engine and loss of MB which would only make it more $$$$. Keep in mind the base Jeep prices and the crazy inflated packages that were required to get the diesel. That was all due to keeping profitable. Liberty had the same problem and now the liberty diesel does not currently meet clean air rules. Now we have all heard about the Cummins 4.2. Sorry guys way to heavy and too much power and all of the drive line would need replaced and would be a thirsty beast. Keep in mind Jeep has to keep all further diesels cheap because of cafe. that is going to be the only way to keep from getting fined again for poor mpg's And if you think Im wrong about the cheap diesel look at MB!! there standard engine in their suv's is the 3.0 diesel. translate that to upping their cafe numbers for free!!!! Sorry for the rant. But I love my jeep and want an Unlimited but I am married and will not sacrafice food for gas. Please if anyone is "in the know" please let me know. Because we ALL WANT TO KNOW.

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Unread 06-09-2008, 01:28 PM   #2
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Unread 06-09-2008, 03:19 PM   #3
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You are right. The 4.2 Cummins is too much engine for any current Jeep.
Sure would be nice to drop in an old full size though.
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Unread 06-11-2008, 11:19 PM   #4
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I'm not in the know..I'm not exctly sure I'm following what you're looking for..but..

If you're looking for a diesel to put in your JK, I read in a magazine where someone had found a small diesel in some delivery trucks and had swapped it into a Jeep full-size truck..not sure if it would be suitable for your JK..

I had also read there may be package offered by jeep to swap the 2.8crd into the wranglers..but I think it was TJ and previous (probably due to meeting emission standards for the model years)..

Have you looked at VW diesels? I don't know the HP and torque numbers for the various engines, but I know there are lots of people that mod those engines..I would start with Advanced Adapters and see what they have to say..

You might also try AEV; they put some 2.8CRDs in some TJs..

I'm not sure I helped..but I tried; good luck and keep us posted.
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I'm not in the know..I'm not exctly sure I'm following what you're looking for..but..
Not quite what I was looking for but thanks for the info.

Looking for further info on 2010 JK Wrangler Diesel.
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If i have a diesel that gets 30 mpg and you have a gas that gets 15 mpg, who is cleaner when the gas uses twice the fuel
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Unread 06-18-2008, 05:06 AM   #7
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If i have a diesel that gets 30 mpg and you have a gas that gets 15 mpg, who is cleaner when the gas uses twice the fuel
YOU ARE AWSOME!! I have been saying that for years!! How is it the government can convince tons of people of the oppsite? And anyone follows it?
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I'm not in the know..I'm not exctly sure I'm following what you're looking for..but..

If you're looking for a diesel to put in your JK, I read in a magazine where someone had found a small diesel in some delivery trucks and had swapped it into a Jeep full-size truck..not sure if it would be suitable for your JK..
Cummins 4BT and 4BTA
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YOU ARE AWSOME!! I have been saying that for years!! How is it the government can convince tons of people of the oppsite? And anyone follows it?
Same thing when they mandate the oxygenated fuel because of seasonal smog. You get less mpg with that fuel. So since you burn more of the "cleaner" gas to go the same distance does it really equal out to cleaner air and less smog?
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Same thing when they mandate the oxygenated fuel because of seasonal smog. You get less mpg with that fuel. So since you burn more of the "cleaner" gas to go the same distance does it really equal out to cleaner air and less smog?
Looks like all the smart people drive jeeps!
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what about the ulsd? There are claims of a 4mpg drop using it. Is it really that much cleaner when you use 15% more fuel. AND smart people do drive jeeps, thank you
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there are lots of companies DC could get diesels from in Europe. I think the fiat 1.9 turbo diesel that they twin charge in Saabs over there would be pretty sweet in a jeep. Its just by the time they are dumbed down to American emissions quality, they aren't much more efficient than regular petrol engines. If it gets 40 MPG highway over there, it will likely get less than 30 over here.
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what about the ulsd? There are claims of a 4mpg drop using it. Is it really that much cleaner when you use 15% more fuel. AND smart people do drive jeeps, thank you
I have heard that and sad to say worse. From what I understand the sulfer in diesel worked kind of like lead back in the day for compression and as lubricant. Well for diesels the fuel pumps are sensitive to the sulfer for lube. they will probably engineer different pumps but when? 5 years after the diesel is brought to this country. Those high presure pumps are loot too!
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Cummins 4BT and 4BTA
Awesome engine but they probably would kill it adding emissions and required governmental equipment.

But I would buy that one!
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JP Magazine this month showed both a diesel Liberty (new body style) and diesel JK being wheeled by Jeep engineers
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