OK short and sweet. Cannot use MB 3.0 because of expense of engine and loss of MB which would only make it more $$$$. Keep in mind the base Jeep prices and the crazy inflated packages that were required to get the diesel. That was all due to keeping profitable. Liberty had the same problem and now the liberty diesel does not currently meet clean air rules. Now we have all heard about the Cummins 4.2. Sorry guys way to heavy and too much power and all of the drive line would need replaced and would be a thirsty beast. Keep in mind Jeep has to keep all further diesels cheap because of cafe. that is going to be the only way to keep from getting fined again for poor mpg's And if you think Im wrong about the cheap diesel look at MB!! there standard engine in their suv's is the 3.0 diesel. translate that to upping their cafe numbers for free!!!! Sorry for the rant. But I love my jeep and want an Unlimited but I am married and will not sacrafice food for gas. Please if anyone is "in the know" please let me know. Because we ALL WANT TO KNOW.:washme::help:
I'm not in the know..I'm not exctly sure I'm following what you're looking for..but..
If you're looking for a diesel to put in your JK, I read in a magazine where someone had found a small diesel in some delivery trucks and had swapped it into a Jeep full-size truck..not sure if it would be suitable for your JK..
I had also read there may be package offered by jeep to swap the 2.8crd into the wranglers..but I think it was TJ and previous (probably due to meeting emission standards for the model years)..
Have you looked at VW diesels? I don't know the HP and torque numbers for the various engines, but I know there are lots of people that mod those engines..I would start with Advanced Adapters and see what they have to say..
You might also try AEV; they put some 2.8CRDs in some TJs..
I'm not sure I helped..but I tried; good luck and keep us posted.
YOU ARE AWSOME!! I have been saying that for years!! How is it the government can convince tons of people of the oppsite? And anyone follows it?:agree::ditto::congrats::bowdown:
what about the ulsd? There are claims of a 4mpg drop using it. Is it really that much cleaner when you use 15% more fuel. AND smart people do drive jeeps, thank you
I have heard that and sad to say worse. From what I understand the sulfer in diesel worked kind of like lead back in the day for compression and as lubricant. Well for diesels the fuel pumps are sensitive to the sulfer for lube. they will probably engineer different pumps but when? 5 years after the diesel is brought to this country. Those high presure pumps are loot too!
there are lots of companies DC could get diesels from in Europe. I think the fiat 1.9 turbo diesel that they twin charge in Saabs over there would be pretty sweet in a jeep. Its just by the time they are dumbed down to American emissions quality, they aren't much more efficient than regular petrol engines. If it gets 40 MPG highway over there, it will likely get less than 30 over here.
VM Motori 2.8L CRD I think..They didn't say specifically, but they said it was a JK export model..I think that is what is in them..same engine in the 05 and 06 CRD Liberty
Peterson's 4 Wheel & Off Road last month rated the 2.8 from the old Liberty at 120hp and 240lb-ft of torque. This month they talk about the J8 which is an export model of the JK for the Egyptian military. That version of the 2.8 is rated at 158hp and 295lb-ft of torque.
I heard through the grape vine that there was a JK with the 3.0 Mercedes diesel out in Nevada. Can't say anything other than I heard that it was confirmed by a local dealer out there.
Before everyone freaks out and starts to remind all of us about the european spec model that is made only for Europe please keep in mind that they already have a diesel for that market and its not the 3.0. The 3.0 is already 50 state approved for emmisions and ready to roll.
Diesels are getting cleaner than gas! but that is also doubling the price for the engine, have you all put any thought into the diesels that are put in the dodge/freight liner commercial vans? its a small v6. I would also like to mention the 5.9l that is in the pick-ups has a 4 popper that is also a GREAT engine. I have seen many of these engines with unbelievable hours on the engine. If there is a will there is always a way. move out of calf or other smog states and you can do anything!
I just bought a '05 CRD Liberty to have some fun with, 9000.00. Some day in the future Im going to transfer the engine and trans into a TJ!!! :2thumbsup:
I think the engine weighs about 750# and you can tell its all there. I didnt do anything to the frame and i've been wheeling it for about 3 years. I have the 7.5" springs and a 1.75" spacer in the front to level it out, and i think i have a 6" spring in the rear. I have a bunch of you tube videos under diesel jeep or moprr71
Some at Chrysler/Jeep say it cost between $250,000 to $500,000 for each Govt test , to add a new engine to the wrangler, and it can take more than one test to pass this engine to go into the wrangler ,and to add a second engine to the model, you just start over with the test for this new engine . Note each engine must be type tested with its vehicle, so if jeep wants to put the new 3.6 v6 or a 3.0 diesel into 4 jeep vehicles, it must be tested in each of those jeeps. So you can see how the costs can add up to $ millions . also the tests incluled vehicle crash test and so on. Just our Govt at work.
You seemed to think on the 23rd there would be no diesel...Then on 28th you seem certain that they are? What changed? Whats your source? Please share because we all want one, and no one wants false hope.
Chrysler/Fiat ;it was part of the deal between them, chrysler is to get a 3.0 diesel Ref http://www.allpar.com on the forum
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