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post #32 of 33 Old 08-25-2012, 05:09 PM
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While I think the J12 is awesome, I don't really think a full-size truck would be in Jeep's best interest. The "Gladiator Concept" we saw back in 05 was much closer to the JK8 we're seeing now and where I think they should be looking. While the smaller pick up market isn't necessarily a huge one. Of the two best offerings in that class (the Tacoma and Ranger) one is currently on hiatus getting "redesigned".

If anything is to be learned from much of Ford's more recent "redesigns" you can feel free to read it as "ruined". The Tacoma is a really good capable truck with the right options. Same goes for the Ranger if you put enough money in it.

I think the trick here is for Jeep to basically give us a JK8, but as a real pick up. The complete front clip of the JK on a JKU frame with a cab and bed instead of a converted tub. Use the current JK/JKU paints, trim levels, packages. Use it all. make the Wrangler a 3 model vehicle. You can get 2dr, 4dr, or Cab and Box Pick Up models. Keep the Pick Up right in line with those price tiers aswell. Perhaps on the same line as the 4dr model.

That way Jeep already has them all beat. By buying a Cab and Box JK Sport you are already getting a vehicle that is more capable in terms of off-road performance then either a Tacoma or Ranger could be built with stock options. While either might have better payload ratings then the JK Pick Up, I think the JK truck would find it's niche perfectly in the market. Especially considering what the Ranger will likely become when it re-emerges.

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the new ranger won't be offered here in the states only over seas. The new one will be almost as big as the F150 and they dont want to take away sales from their flagship truck. the only other american offering will be the colorado/canyon which after the next redesign will be more along the lines of a minivan with a bed. The tacoma is a very capable truck but it too needs to go on a serious diet. It is the largest "midsize" truck on the market.

Personally I think the size of the J12 is a perfect midsize offering not too big and would sell like hot cakes.
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the only other american offering will be the colorado/canyon which after the next redesign will be more along the lines of a minivan with a bed.
Not exactly. It's neither particularly American (Design was mostly done as a collaboration between Izuzu and Holden, Chevrolet's Australian division), and it remains as truck-like as ever:

(That's the Holden version, but the Chevrolet will be exactly the same save the badge on the grille)

You're probably confusing it with the next-generation Ram Dakota, which was speculated to be based of the Chrysler minivan platform. (Which is half-true, it may be based off the same platform as the next-generation Chrysler minivans, but will also underpin everything from the next-gen large cars to commercial vans)

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