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Unread 02-22-2013, 10:25 PM   #91
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I actually really like it. Will it be the new XJ? probably not but as long as companies like Rusty's make lifts for it and maybe a steel replacement for that bottom piece out front and the right kind of armor for it, The new 3.2 pentastar will likely provide all the power you could need to take it out and do whatever. The new Grand Cherokee is plenty capable and this will likely follow suite. We wont know for sure until next month when we get specs from the New York Auto Show, but I see a lot of promise.

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Unread 02-22-2013, 10:30 PM   #92
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all i hope is that its not called the WKmini....
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Unread 02-22-2013, 10:31 PM   #93
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Wasn't there some kinda rumor about them redoing the wrangler soon and making it a little rounder? Could this be the shape of things to come?

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While I wouldn't necessarily put it past Chrysler/FIAT to do something that stupid, I can't see a rounded off Wrangler selling well and if they drop solid axles forget it.

They may be able to get away with it on a "Cherokee"/Liberty Replacement that is aimed at the mass market that buys the utterly boring RAV4s, CRVs, etc and don't necessarily buy for off-road capability. But the Wrangler is marketed directly at enthusiasts who won't react lightly to it being "watered down".
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Unread 02-23-2013, 05:49 AM   #94
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While I wouldn't necessarily put it past Chrysler/FIAT to do something that stupid, I can't see a rounded off Wrangler selling well and if they drop solid axles forget it.

They may be able to get away with it on a "Cherokee"/Liberty Replacement that is aimed at the mass market that buys the utterly boring RAV4s, CRVs, etc and don't necessarily buy for off-road capability. But the Wrangler is marketed directly at enthusiasts who won't react lightly to it being "watered down".
Let's just hope they did a nice job on it in terms of interior appointments, suspension, NVH, and drivetrain. If someone looking at the Rav4 or CRV can take a test drive and not find it wanting, that would be good.

Awaiting specs, but didn't some Jeep official say a while back that new models would have a trail rated version that would have best in class ability? Not that this would be Wrangler-level capability, but if it spanks a Rav4 or CRV, that would be good. Even with the controversial styling I would rather have one of these in my garage than a Toyota or Honda.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 06:23 AM   #95
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Oh, and here is the press release from Jeep that came with the good photos:

"Auburn Hills, Mich. - Jeep(r) Cherokee. The name is instantly recognizable as the most capable and versatile mid-size SUV in the world. For 2014, Jeep brings the Cherokee name back to North America with the debut of its all-new mid-size sport-utility vehicle.

Set to debut at the New York International Auto Show in March, the all-new, "no-compromise" 2014 Jeep Cherokee sets a new standard with even more best-in-class capability, exemplary on-road driving dynamics, and fuel economy improvements of more than 45 percent versus the outgoing mid-size SUV model.

The all-new 2014 Jeep Cherokee will be built in the United States at Chrysler Group's Toledo Assembly Plant in Toledo, Ohio, and will arrive in dealer showrooms in the third quarter of this year."


That middle paragraph is rather intriguing, I'd say. The 2012 Liberty (if that is the outgoing model they refer to) got 22 mpg highway. If that is what they are replacing then +45% = 31 mpg, which doesn't suck. It equals the CRV and exceeds the 28 mpg of the Rav4. As for "exemplary on-road driving dynamics" are we still thinking this is based on the same platform as the new Dart? A very critical automotive writer I know has nothing but good things to say about how the Dart drives. How much that has changed along the way to adding 4WD?/AWD? (since we don't know what system it will use) and adding ground clearance, we shall see. Also, "even more best-in-class capability" is certainly Marketing-speak, but could be based on something. Let's hope so. I would much rather have the CRV/Rav4 shopper buying a Jeep.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 07:57 AM   #96
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What's up with the headlights? Today's Jeep keeps going away from the classic, round headlights, which I think is a mistake. I hate the headlights on this and the 2014 WK2. Yuck. It's like Fiat has screwed with it.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 08:24 AM   #97
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Like many new cars I don't like the look of, I'm sure it'll grow on me, and I might end up buying one (used) one day. But I'm puzzled what makes them go so far on design on a Jeep? Let's face it, the average buyer is pretty conservative. And this is the one that Chrysler can't afford to get wrong. So the Design Manager that convinced Management to go this way, must be a persuasive guy...
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Unread 02-23-2013, 08:38 AM   #98
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I also noticed it looks like it has the trapezoid wheel wheels not the hard U shaped ones which if I'm not mistaken, make it easier to fit more tire on less lift
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Unread 02-23-2013, 08:41 AM   #99
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It's not my taste (at least not based on the pictures, I'd like to see it in person) but I'll give them props for trying something new.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 09:14 AM   #100
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After showing her pictures, my mom is interested. She has a Hyundai Tucson and it looks similar to the new Cherokee.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 09:38 AM   #101
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Looks like a turd.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 10:23 AM   #102
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The only Jeep that I have really liked since they replaced the XJ has been the Wrangler. We live in a time where ugly vehicles sell and because of that there are more ugly designs on the roads today than in any previous era. To me the new Cherokee (THAT WAS HARD TO TYPE) is pretty ugly, Juke, Cube, Xb or Aztec ugly? No. I do think it will sell better than the Liberty it replaces. I would really like to see some of the other designs that were rejected in favor of the final look just to see what else was considered. As usual I will wait to see one in person and see some specs but, I am not optimistic my initial reaction will change. My 13 year old XJ still looks and runs like new and if the time ever comes to make a choice between a new replacement or a total restoration my money is with the restoration.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 10:42 AM   #104
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Looks like a Ford.
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Unread 02-23-2013, 11:21 AM   #105
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Maybe the trail rated version will come with a little bigger wheels and more ground clearance. Trying to remain optomistic.
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