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post #451 of 592 Old 04-13-2013, 02:56 PM
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It occurred to me the other day that Jeep actually did already try to sell a re-done squared off boxy new Cherokee - it is the most recent Liberty (KK?) model. And, for any number of reasons, it tanked. Didn't sell well. So, it is no wonder they are trying a new direction.
True, though I think the lousy power-train (3.7L OHC V6 and 42RLE), lack luster fit and finish, and poor reliability had far more to do with it tanking than the design. After all the Honda Pilot has a boxy design (though no off-road ability to speak of) and those sell like hotcakes.

I actually liked the design of the KK, though I likely wouldn't buy one for the aforementioned reasons (now if they would have offered it with a 4.0L I6 and an AW4 I or a 3.6L Pentastar V6 and a W5A580 or a manual, and taken care of some of the other issues I may have seriously considered one).

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post #452 of 592 Old 04-13-2013, 04:41 PM
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^ hmmm good point. I could see why they'd try this then. I still hope it looks better in a few years.

I'm in the same boat as you two, I would like a steel roofed 4 door JK and a JK8 available on lots. It'll be hard for them to make that many versions of a Wrangler though when they have all the other Jeeps

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I can see a J8 wanting to be offered from the factory but...

Why a steel roofed jk? What's the benefit/difference from a solid mounted body matched fiberglass topped one. Other then for roof rack abilities. (Which they've made work anyways)
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post #453 of 592 Old 06-21-2013, 03:54 AM
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While not the best looking rig, it's better than any of its competition. I'm planning on getting either the mango tango, or anvil trailhawk for my wife to replace our mazda 5. Still plenty capable, but more comfortable than my jku.
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post #454 of 592 Old 06-22-2013, 05:20 PM
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While not the best looking rig, it's better than any of its competition. I'm planning on getting either the mango tango, or anvil trailhawk for my wife to replace our mazda 5. Still plenty capable, but more comfortable than my jku.
I think it is a good move to take sales from Honduh, Toys for tots and the rest... While the front is very different that is exactly why it will stand out besides having the best capability for a small ute.
With a 271 HP V6 and a 9 speed the thing should move out with some umph and get good mpgs... open up the skyslider or panoramic sunroof and it should be a fun vehicle.
When you see a Cherokee you won't mistake it for a CRV, Santa Fe or Equinox.
Lastly... it better be a home run for Jeep or the JK version of a Jeep will not survive under our governments CAFE rules.
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post #455 of 592 Old 07-03-2013, 12:00 PM
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True, though I think the lousy power-train (3.7L OHC V6 and 42RLE), lack luster fit and finish, and poor reliability had far more to do with it tanking than the design. After all the Honda Pilot has a boxy design (though no off-road ability to speak of) and those sell like hotcakes.

I actually liked the design of the KK, though I likely wouldn't buy one for the aforementioned reasons (now if they would have offered it with a 4.0L I6 and an AW4 I or a 3.6L Pentastar V6 and a W5A580 or a manual, and taken care of some of the other issues I may have seriously considered one).
One thing I always wondered is why they didn't put the 4.0 V6 and W5A580 in the KK like they did with the Nitro. I think if they did that and had a better interior it wouldve done a lot better.

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post #456 of 592 Old 07-03-2013, 04:57 PM
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One thing I always wondered is why they didn't put the 4.0 V6 and W5A580 in the KK like they did with the Nitro. I think if they did that and had a better interior it wouldve done a lot better.
It would have been nice to see a Liberty (KK) with the 4.0L V6 (or even its 3.5L brother). Aside from being an interference engine with a timing belt (not usually an issue as long as you change it at the recommended interval) and being a gas hog (not that you buy a Jeep for the fuel economy) it was a decent engine in both performance and reliability, that plus a decent transmission (and fixing some of the misc. quality issues) and they would have probably sold a whole lot more.
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post #457 of 592 Old 07-12-2013, 11:52 PM
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It would have been nice to see a Liberty (KK) with the 4.0L V6 (or even its 3.5L brother). Aside from being an interference engine with a timing belt (not usually an issue as long as you change it at the recommended interval) and being a gas hog (not that you buy a Jeep for the fuel economy) it was a decent engine in both performance and reliability, that plus a decent transmission (and fixing some of the misc. quality issues) and they would have probably sold a whole lot more.
The 3.7 and the converted Mini Van transmission was placed in the Lib for production and cost cutting reasons. It was cheaper to convert the notorious minivan trans for rwd and 3.7 is basically a 4.7 minus 2 pistons and I am sure many things in both motors are shared.

The 3.7 does develop torque quickly at low rpm which is a good thing for the KK and it has been a motor that been tweaked and proven. However, being that is 90 degrees it needs to be balanced and the computer sometimes has to play firing order to keep it from vibrating. If it were a 60 degree the computer wouldn't have to play around too much, it would be easier to balance and also more compact to fit in the engine compartment. Of course all that developing means time and $$.

Anyway not certain of the dimensions or what would it take in programing, but I would love to have that new 8spd available as an aftermarket upgrade for the Lib. People are telling me that the new 8spd makes a world of difference over the old 5spd in the current GC.

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post #458 of 592 Old 07-13-2013, 05:09 AM
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I agree that the Lib had the potential to be a better vehicle. But, at that time there was no reason to lose the valuable Cherokee name here in the home market. The new Cherokee should have been:

Steel hardtop boxy body on a stretched Wrangler frame. Live axles.
Smart Jeep would have updated the 4.0 to a 4.7 striker with a cross flow head.
No mystery, they went and spent a lot for nothing. First gen Libby not impressive at all. 2nd was a bit better but still not competitive.

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post #459 of 592 Old 07-13-2013, 05:34 AM
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One thing I always wondered is why they didn't put the 4.0 V6 and W5A580 in the KK like they did with the Nitro. I think if they did that and had a better interior it wouldve done a lot better.
Don't know for sure about this particular case but some of Chrysler's engine decisions have been based on production capacity. They have attempted to balance the mix by what production was available (increasing engine capacity or changing production mix can take a few years).

Pentastars came late to Wrangler and some other vehicles precisely because there was not enough capacity at first.

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post #460 of 592 Old 07-14-2013, 06:25 AM
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Rumor at Allpar that a SRT version of the Cherokee is in the works (375 hp?)

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php...kee-srt-coming

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post #461 of 592 Old 07-23-2013, 09:46 AM
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If I'm to trust things I read on the internet, production started a few weeks ago and the new Cherokee should be arriving in dealerships late August/early September.
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post #462 of 592 Old 07-24-2013, 06:55 AM
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If I'm to trust things I read on the internet, production started a few weeks ago and the new Cherokee should be arriving in dealerships late August/early September.
At least they have given us some warning so we can don some dark shades to prevent being blinding by looking at this ugly monstrosity.

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post #463 of 592 Old 07-24-2013, 09:01 AM
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At least they have given us some warning so we can don some dark shades to prevent being blinding by looking at this ugly monstrosity.
But what happens if you come across one and you don't have your sunglasses on? You could be a danger to yourself and other people on the road. It would probably be safer if you just don't drive, and leave the hard concentrating on the road stuff to us people with less of a flair for the dramatic.
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post #464 of 592 Old 07-24-2013, 09:07 AM
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I seen a new cherokee today they actually look good I'd buy one to be my dd and let my zj do what real Jeeps do and that's wheel
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post #465 of 592 Old 07-25-2013, 03:56 AM
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Rumor at Allpar that a SRT version of the Cherokee is in the works (375 hp?)

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php...kee-srt-coming
Interesting....

We are looking at a mango trailhawk for my wife, we want a vehicle that can do some wheeling on trails but be great in everyday driving situations. We have my Jku for the harder trails but for camping or running up to our cottage or other places, the trailhawk fits the bill.
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