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post #16 of 592 Old 10-22-2012, 09:07 AM
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Looks like I'll be keeping my '11 Liberty a few more years if it looks similar to that. I like my "Boxy" Liberty.

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post #17 of 592 Old 10-22-2012, 05:13 PM
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Maybe I'm alone here, but I'm a lot more interested in what a machine does than how it looks.
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post #18 of 592 Old 10-23-2012, 07:21 AM
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Maybe I'm alone here, but I'm a lot more interested in what a machine does than how it looks.
Front wheel drive or all wheel drive, limited suspension movement, no room inside the wheel wells for larger tires and zero aftermarket support because it won't be easy to do any modifications to it.

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post #19 of 592 Old 10-23-2012, 12:34 PM
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Front wheel drive or all wheel drive, limited suspension movement, no room inside the wheel wells for larger tires and zero aftermarket support because it won't be easy to do any modifications to it.
None of those things are meaningfully related to how "boxy" the body style looks. I think it's likely that in spite of using different geometry, the next generation will probably have equivalent stock vs. stock performance off-highway to the present generation.

If you want to crawl rocks and wear 40's, they make another vehicle for that.
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post #20 of 592 Old 11-13-2012, 11:40 PM
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This new Cherokee is built on the new Dodge Dart platform. That right there makes it automatically worse. And to add insult to injury the base model isnt RWD... its FWD Its going to disgrace the Cherokee keep sake. I R Sad

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post #21 of 592 Old 11-15-2012, 01:48 PM
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Yeah, definitely don't see the liberty in that.
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post #22 of 592 Old 12-02-2012, 08:52 PM Thread Starter
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Interesting news-it sounds like the Liberty replacement will feature low-range 4WD using what is essentially a modified PTO-style setup. More details as I find them.

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post #23 of 592 Old 12-02-2012, 09:09 PM
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Interesting news-it sounds like the Liberty replacement will feature low-range 4WD using what is essentially a modified PTO-style setup. More details as I find them.
I appreciate your updating us, especially since I am considering a 2012 Liberty within the next 6 months. One of the main things holding me from pulling the trigger (besides the only having half of what I'd like to put down as a down payment saved up) is the new Liberty/Cherokee.

So, needless to say, I'm watching this thread like a hawk.
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post #24 of 592 Old 12-02-2012, 09:25 PM Thread Starter
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The info is coming from someone who's directly involved in the manufacturing of the Liberty replacement, who's always been trustworthy (If a bit vague )

So, yeah, it's not outright confirmed, but it's heavily suspected that the Liberty, and potentially other C-Wide-based FWD-biased Jeeps going forward may have a low-range 4WD, despite the absence of a transfer case.

The current Patriot uses a sorta-similar system with its CVT, but, with the Liberty replacement going to a traditional 9-speed auto, expect something with a little more grunt-and roundly the same low-range gear ratio as the current Liberty.

EDIT: If you're waffling between the two, keep in mind that the new Liberty will, essentially, be a 2/3rds-scale Grand Cherokee. It will likely be a fantastic vehicle, but it won't have a lot of the trucklike feel and boxy shape of the current one.

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post #25 of 592 Old 12-02-2012, 10:44 PM
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Yeah that part concerns me a little. But not much. Because as much as I love the boxy look, etc (I'm a former XJ owner after all,) I really like the looks of the WK2. Plus Fiat's commitment to a higher quality of interiors has me excited.

I really wish they had stuffed the 4.7 V8 or at least the Pentastar into this generation. I am so done with the constant lugging on the highway and overall lack of power (presently a 4.0L ZJ owner.)
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Sadly, unlike the J-platform cars, the KK just wasn't considered worth saving. But the new Liberty should solve that-expect some fuel-friendly 4-cylinders at the bottom and a 3.2L version of the Pentastar, in both turbo and N/A versions, at the top-HP options should range from about 200 to 300 HP, for a vehicle roughly the same size and weight as the WJ.

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post #27 of 592 Old 01-03-2013, 04:50 PM
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What if Chrysler/Fiat plan on using an already existing platform in the Fiat family, with "rugged" looks like the Brazilian Palio Adventure? This is a FWD wagon with high ride and front differential locker. It's only missing the 4x4 transfer case, which could be fitted in nicely, without having to re-design the whole truck...

In my own opinion, it looks far better than any of the Compass-esque "Liberkee" replacements some forums seem to show everywhere on the net!
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post #28 of 592 Old 01-03-2013, 06:28 PM
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What if Chrysler/Fiat plan on using an already existing platform in the Fiat family, with "rugged" looks like the Brazilian Palio Adventure? This is a FWD wagon with high ride and front differential locker. It's only missing the 4x4 transfer case, which could be fitted in nicely, without having to re-design the whole truck...

In my own opinion, it looks far better than any of the Compass-esque "Liberkee" replacements some forums seem to show everywhere on the net!
I don't know anything about that particular car, but it would sure give the Subaru drivers another option, and I would love for Jeep to get some of those people.

Saving up for a Wrangler...
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post #29 of 592 Old 01-06-2013, 03:28 PM
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What if Chrysler/Fiat plan on using an already existing platform in the Fiat family, with "rugged" looks like the Brazilian Palio Adventure? This is a FWD wagon with high ride and front differential locker. It's only missing the 4x4 transfer case, which could be fitted in nicely, without having to re-design the whole truck...

In my own opinion, it looks far better than any of the Compass-esque "Liberkee" replacements some forums seem to show everywhere on the net!
Yep, add a transfer-case or 4lo of some sort. I would be a potential customer for that. Reminds me of an old amc 4wd.

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post #30 of 592 Old 01-17-2013, 02:37 PM
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