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Unread 10-10-2008, 07:59 PM   #46
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Ford's in just as bad shape as Chrysler, there's no way they could buy Jeep even if they wanted too.
Actually, Ford is in worse shape than Chrysler. Ford stock is at like $2.35 today and Chrysler is at $3.12 (isn't that pathetic). But you are right, if Jeep does get a new owner, it'll most likely be a foreign one.

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Unread 10-10-2008, 08:26 PM   #47
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How is Chrysler at $3.12, it's not a publicly traded company?
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Unread 10-10-2008, 08:39 PM   #48
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How is Chrysler at $3.12, it's not a publicly traded company?

You're absolutely correct. I got distracted watching tickers. My apologies. Cerberus owns 80.1% of Chrysler(Cerberus Capital Management) and Daimler A.G. owns the remaining 19.9%.

Daimler A.G. is at $30.45, much MUCH better than Ford.
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Unread 10-10-2008, 08:46 PM   #49
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You're absolutely correct. I got distracted watching tickers. My apologies. Cerberus owns 80.1% of Chrysler(Cerberus Capital Management) and Daimler A.G. owns the remaining 19.9%.

Daimler A.G. is at $30.45, much MUCH better than Ford.
I was just wondering if you calculated it using financial reports from Daimler's 19.9%.

Who owns Cerberus? I wish I had money to buy some GM or Ford.
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Unread 10-10-2008, 09:02 PM   #50
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I only know a little about Cerberus Capital Management, what I read anyhow. They've got a decent website (hxxp://www.cerberuscapital.com/). Company profile tells you a little bit about them. As far as buying Ford or GM stock, it's unimaginable that one of them would go bankrupt or be bought out...but not impossible. If you're a gambling kind of person, auto stock might give you a pretty good reward but probably not in the immediate future. As for me, I'm moving some of my money out of the aggressive mutual funds and putting it into utilities, specifically electric companies. If you look at the 'electric' trend that auto manufacturers pursuing (either all electric or PHEV) and you do a little math as to how much electricity those big batteries actually take and then put one in every 15th, 10th, 5th or even every other home....that's a LOT of juice. I suspect demand is really going to start escalating here in the next two years and demand will increase steadily for at least the following decade.

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Unread 10-11-2008, 08:22 AM   #51
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If I was going to buy auto stock, I'd be buying Honda. They're the only company turning real profit, even Toyota's posted a few losses recently. They've built their strategy around small, efficient, durable cars, and that's what's selling now.
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+1.....sadly I agree.....Years ago Toyota solidified their market with extremely reliable and durable cars. Now that the company has become so big, it's only a matter of time before they start to churn out more and more vehicles with quality control issues. I am not bashing Toyota and I have full respect in them. I've even at times said I hate Toyota, but it was foolish. They really did make cars that were above and beyond most other auto-manufacturers. Only time will tell and the next few years should be very "telling"
I agree...my family owns a 97 4runner sr5 great off road when stock too and we have had it forever..155k miles and runs like new..it was my moms car in 97 then went to my oldest sis when she got her license then went to me 3 years ago and now onto my lil sis and when shes done my dads keeping it he loves it...(likes my jeep more cuz his dad never let him get a jeep) but still toyota made a great product up until around 2003 and up..the new 4runners suck and i am quite disappointed with their quality...so to see toyota buy jeep..a nightmare in my book i wouldnt mind seeing AM General buy them cuz the REAL hummers are amazing
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Unread 02-20-2009, 03:30 PM   #53
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From what i read, it looks like Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge goes with Fiat ,or they go into bankruptcy cort, some say it will cost around $90 to Billion to bailout GM and Chrysler at this point? I don't know but going with Fiat may give us a Wrangler with a Diesel and new transmission..look at fptpowertrain.com and maesco.com, see pictures of sofim engines, 2.3 and 3.0 both meet tier 2, the 3.0 is the one for Jeep i hope.
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Unread 02-28-2009, 03:30 PM   #54
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You may want to google troller t4,or checkout you-tube.com for troller t4, this is a modern Ford YJ jeep, that Ford owens the rights to.

Note: I posted this because of my worrier over the future of the Jeep wrangler ,It is just killing me. any way, seeing this Ford YJ in action on you-tube,well it helps me with the pain.I know, now that Ford can build a Jeep Wrangler,because its the mostly stateside buyer for the Jeep brand , before bankruptcy or after

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Unread 02-28-2009, 10:44 PM   #55
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You may want to google troller t4,or checkout youtube.com for troller t4, this is a modern Ford YJ jeep, that Ford owens the rights to.
That thing is so hideous it's just wrong. Looks like the cross between a Renegade YJ and an earlier Liberty.


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Unread 03-01-2009, 10:56 AM   #56
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I read in JP magazine the other day that international was purchasing Jeep. Is there any truth to that?

EDIT: I also just read it in a thread 2 below this one...
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I read in JP magazine the other day that international was purchasing Jeep. Is there any truth to that?

EDIT: I also just read it in a thread 2 below this one...
The infamous April (April Fools Day) issue of JP.
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Unread 03-01-2009, 09:09 PM   #58
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Yeah you gotta love that. They really got me.
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i hate it when they do that, damnit. because the april issue is usually out at the end of ****ing february.
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Unread 03-02-2009, 08:44 AM   #60
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I read in JP magazine the other day that international was purchasing Jeep. Is there any truth to that?

EDIT: I also just read it in a thread 2 below this one...
We all wish that were true. I love the picture of the Rubicon Grand Cherokee.
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