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Unread 09-06-2010, 12:11 AM   #1
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The Chrysler/Fiat 2011-2015 plan ! ! !

The plan:
Upcoming changes in the Chrysler lineup

Jeep related:

Diesels:
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Fiat diesels will power some Chrysler vehicles (possibly including Jeeps currently VM-powered), at least in export markets, hooked up to the six-speed Chrysler automatic transmission.
Wrangler/Scrambler:
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Changes “directly address” customer feedback, including off-roaders. The 2011 Jeep Wrangler (due in August/September; we have spy shots) has a new interior and optional body-color top for Sahara, and the 2012 will have a standard Pentastar V6; a revised VM diesel is only for export markets. New Rock-Trac 4x4 system is on the Wrangler pages. The Scrambler pickup appears to be “no-go” for a few years at least.

A Jeep pickup truck
would have to be based on an existing body-on-frame architecture if approved, which brings us to the Wrangler pickup prototype we spotted in Detroit, as it was being transported between two off-site facilities for final assembly work. A Wrangler pickup has been rumored for quite some time, with the name Scrambler mentioned; lately, a concept called the Jeep JT, has emerged, but the idea is the same, and we suspect Jeep is still sticking toes into the water to see if the market is hot or cold. Small pickup sales have dwindled despite higher fuel costs, but the future may hold a different story; and a small four wheel drive pickup designed for off-roading hasn't been fielded for a while. The factor preventing Jeep from mass-producing the Scrambler may, in fact, be demand for the standard Wrangler; when demand for the Wrangler drops, the Scrambler may appear to keep the factories humming without resorting to price cuts.
Commander:
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The Jeep Commander may continue as an offshore-only model, using the existing tooling and facilities in another country, to be sold in countries such as (but not definitely) China and Russia. There is no Commander in Jeep’s North American production schedule.
Liberty:
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The next Jeep Liberty will use the same key dimensions as new C and D class (midsized) cars in 2013. The Liberty could be a “real Jeep” that just shares key dimensions with mid-sized cars and crossovers. The Nitro is not expected to continue. The 2011 Liberty is similar to the 2010 but with some interior improvements.
Patriot/Compass:
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Nicely redone interiors and a bit more sound insulation make these cars much more attractive; 2011 Patriot is in S2 and has minor improvements including new front and rear fascias, the latter better covering the exhaust. Compass is getting a completely new look

This might be all old stuff to you guys so don't hate me if its a repeat, Its all new to me


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Unread 09-06-2010, 08:44 AM   #2
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Thanks for the info! Heard a few bits already, and some of it is new to me.
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Heard most of the JK stuff already, but not the other things.

Thanks for the info
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Unread 09-06-2010, 12:39 PM   #4
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Your welcome guy's i was flipping through getting some Ram truck info for some body, and i noticed all the "future" Jeep plans and figured you might be interested in it

Dammit make a pickup truck already

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Unread 09-06-2010, 12:52 PM   #5
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I would seriously buy a Jeep pick up but only if they kept it small, Ram can keep the full-size all to them selves
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Unread 09-06-2010, 04:56 PM   #6
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They got plenty of good chassies to do so, Wrangler pickup truck, the liberty/Nitro would make a cool looking pickup, and that big square Rig Commander ? the one used for the J-10 on concept drawing would make a nice sized pickup truck.

The JT is fine looking unit, What i see them ya hoo's doing is built a killer pickup, like say the 715er then you know what they'll do with ? make the it an EXPORT only unit . . .

Now this JT/JT-8 ? the military wrangler and the possible pickup variant ? i wouldn't mind if they built that one, sure you can't just buy it up . . . but you know they have to be Surplussed at some point

I can ya yelling now but it'll be 15-25 years old by then, Nice i drive a 22 year old Comanche every day already and its a Gasser ya honestly think it would me to have a 15+ year old Diesel jeep pickup ?

The Gasser's are known to hit 300K miles i'm sure the diesel will hit 500K miles . . .


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Unread 09-10-2010, 08:50 AM   #7
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They got plenty of good chassies to do so, Wrangler pickup truck, the liberty/Nitro would make a cool looking pickup....

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The article stated:
"A Jeep pickup truck would have to be based on an existing body-on-frame architecture if approved"

Does the Liberty/Nitro have a frame? For some reason I was under the impression that it was a unibody structure.
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The article stated:
Does the Liberty/Nitro have a frame? For some reason I was under the impression that it was a unibody structure.
Liberty/Nitro is unibody. But for a lightweight pickup that doesn't have to be a deal breaker. The MJ Comanche was a combination of unibody/frame. Frame rails were added for the bed but the cab portion is was unibody like the XJ. It all comes down to how it is designed on whether it would be any good. If they make it like the Honda Ridgeline then they might as well not even do it.
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I was merely saying that the liberty/nitro's body would look sweet as a 2Dr or extended cab pickup truck.
Yea I agree a 4Dr pickup would be all ridge line ish looking.

I'm not an SUV or 4Dr pickup kind of guy myself.

Now the unibody body truck, the mj has a frame like structure running its full length, the bed is the only removable part.
The cab n floor pan are molded/welded to it.

Now the MJ had an in bed payload ratings of 1475lbs & 2209lbs, with towed load ratings from 2,000-5,000lbs.
Depending on powerplant options.

So structurally the truck its was good for 2209/5000 payload n towed load.
I'm sure the MJs have had guys like me that'll push them to 2,500/7,500 and performed just fine.

Now if you really think about it the AMC designed jeeps were the last of the framed jeeps none of the Cryco models are framed to my knowledge ?

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Now if you really think about it the AMC designed jeeps were the last of the framed jeeps none of the Cryco models are framed to my knowledge ?
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The Wrangler is still body on frame. There is talk of a "lifestyle" truck to replace the Dodge Dakota which is about to end production. If Dodge gets a small truck I hope Jeep gets some sort of one too.
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The Wrangler is still body on frame. There is talk of a "lifestyle" truck to replace the Dodge Dakota which is about to end production. If Dodge gets a small truck I hope Jeep gets some sort of one too.
Yep, The "Wrangler" was also an AMC model, Chrysler updated and continued to produce like the Cherokee, Comanche. and Grand Wagoneer

So those 3 unit's were just continued AMC models, Chrysler did the Grand Cherokee, Compass, Liberty, and Commander ECT ect ect

That's what i ment any way . . .

But thank's for the Wrangler info i always thought they were Unibody/Uniframe hybrid's like the MJ's . . .

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That plan is a bit out of date, there's been a few changes since then.

Subcompact Jeep: Nothing much from that yet, currently the only rumours is that it will essentially replace the Compass and be based on the Panda.

Compass/Patriot: The Compass will be redesigned for 2012 (New front and rear fascias, will look more like a scaled-down Grand Cherokee), and then dropped in the next few years. The Patriot will likely remain more-or-less unchanged, but will probably move from a Caliber-derived platform to a Fiat-derived platform.

Liberty: All we know is that it will be redesigned on a Fiat-based platform...maybe. Or it might be replaced. Or it might be dropped. Or it might continue. Nobody really knows what the Liberty is doing.

Grand Cherokee: Nothing, since we just got a new one.

Wrangler: Will continue as it always has, but Fiat has said they do plan to use the Wrangler platform on new vehicles.

Engines: Small Jeeps will probably get an upgraded version of the World Engine (Probably with Multiair, possibly turbocharging where appropriate), and maybe a smaller Fiat engine, also with turbo and/or Multiair. Pentastar will probably get DI, Multiair and/or turbo. Fiat has also said that, eventually, all Jeeps will have a diesel option worldwide. Diesel-powered Wranglers have been spotted testing, probably with 2.8L or 3.0L Iveco engines.
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Seems as tho nobody including Chrysler whats going to happen


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I was watching the Jeep/Cryco plate forms for the last few months . . .

The Liberty out numbers the Nitro 12-15 to 1 !

The Compass out numbers the Caliber ? what ever its plate for is, Anywho that is more like a 30 or 50 to 1 !

So i'm guessing Jeep is still a money making product ? and its way more popular then the Chrysler version of the same unit ? or is this not the case world wide ?


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