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Unread 03-19-2011, 08:00 PM   #16
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Pretty wild, bringing it back. Durango looks nice too!

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Unread 03-19-2011, 09:16 PM   #17
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Yep, a Badge engineered Grand Durawangoneer XL will be so awesome that I would rather buy the real thing ;-)

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Unread 03-29-2011, 09:31 PM   #18
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Checked out the new Durango today and it is an awesome vehicle, hopefully the new Wagoneer if it comes to light is just as good as the durango / GC twins. Starting to really think Chrysler is benefiting hugely from Fiat :-)
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Unread 04-29-2012, 10:03 AM   #19
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I test drove the Durango, ended up buying the grand cherooke, due to nicer styling and availability of offload package with 2 speed transfer case
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Unread 04-29-2012, 10:10 AM   #20
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Given the now iconic status of the original, I'm betting we will see this remake. Just hold the faux woodgrain in 2014...
Will the woodgrain package be optional ? Does anyone remember when everything came in woodgrain? Like speakers, TV's, Radios, video game systems, vehicle panels. What happened to those days?
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Unread 04-29-2012, 03:16 PM   #21
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I think the Grand Wagoneer is going to be a great vehicle. Hopefully it's a little better packaged than the Commander, and has the same sort of high quality interior that you get in the Grand Cherokee (maybe even nicer). The new Durango is doing very well, as is the Grand Cherokee, and I think a Grand Wagoneer will do quite well.
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Unread 04-30-2012, 07:57 AM   #22
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I just hope they don't over-price the new Wagoneers. If they start in the mid-upper $30k and go as high as $50k-$55k for the top of the line that would be great. I hear rumors they'll start at $60k and higher.
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Unread 04-30-2012, 07:15 PM   #23
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I don't see the Commander starting at $60k. Topping out, maybe, but not starting. The most expensive Overland Summit you can build is MSRP'd at around 51k. The Durango starts at around $2k more than the GC Laredo, and given that a loaded Citadel is roughly $50k, I think you'll see the most expensive Grand Wagoneer MSRP'ing in the $55-60k range, unless they come out with some new features over the GC (fancy turbo v8, fancy transmission, etc.) which could push it up into the $65k range.

I think that Jeep is seeing with the failure of the WK2 SRT8 that there's a price barrier for Jeeps nowdays, and that they simply can't sell vehicles for over $60k. Are they good vehicles? Sure. But in this economy, a person that can afford a $60k vehicle can also likely afford some nice stuff from MB, BMW, Audi, Lexus, Land Rover, etc. and it's going to be tough to sell them a Jeep.

If Jeep really wants people to take notice, I think they could do it with a world beating GW priced under $65k as loaded as it gets. Things like having cooled rear seats, a slick handsfree power liftgate (like the new Ford Escape has), surround view parking cameras, etc. could help build a product that could not only stand against the higher end competition, but also best them in some areas. Indeed a big part of the reason I bought my Overland is it simply bested the competition, I looked at AWD RX350s before deciding on the Jeep and the Jeep was pound for pound better equipped than the Lexus, blew the LR4 out of the water in features, and really the only vehicle that could come close in terms of features was the Merc GL and BMW X5. An X5 would have been great, but I'd have wanted a diesel or turbo engine, and those were hugely expensive, and still lacked some features of the Jeep.

I think Jeep can do it again with the GW, I just don't think it will be the same as the original in demographics and success.
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Unread 05-01-2012, 07:29 AM   #24
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I will definitely look at them when they start hitting lots. We had a '06 Commander Limited and loved it. Unfortunately my wife changed jobs and had to commute much further so we had to sell it for something more economical for her since I had a 300C and wouldn't have made a difference if she took the blue whale. But now that I work a little closer to home, we definitely would consider a GW when they arrive.
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Unread 05-01-2012, 10:33 PM   #25
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The Grand Wagoneer is going to be starting in the $50,000 range. To be frank, it's not for us. It's a full-size, luxury off-road SUV. It's aimed at people who would normally buy Range Rovers and G-Wagens.
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Unread 05-02-2012, 09:55 AM   #26
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As long as they don't put lo-pros on it...
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Unread 05-02-2012, 10:26 AM   #27
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The Grand Wagoneer is going to be starting in the $50,000 range. To be frank, it's not for us. It's a full-size, luxury off-road SUV. It's aimed at people who would normally buy Range Rovers and G-Wagens.
Speak for yourself. As a former Range Rover owner (will never go there again) and a current BMW 535xi wagon owner, I would buy a Grand Wagoneer in a second if it is at least as good as the Grand Cherokee. The only thing holding me back from buying the Grand Cherokee as a replacement to the BMW wagon, is the lack of cargo capacity (and the diesel). While I could afford the new Mercedes GL, I would much prefer not having to spend $70K+. Hopefully they bring it soon or else I won't have much of a choice...
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Unread 05-04-2012, 05:26 PM   #28
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Speak for yourself. As a former Range Rover owner (will never go there again) and a current BMW 535xi wagon owner, I would buy a Grand Wagoneer in a second if it is at least as good as the Grand Cherokee. The only thing holding me back from buying the Grand Cherokee as a replacement to the BMW wagon, is the lack of cargo capacity (and the diesel). While I could afford the new Mercedes GL, I would much prefer not having to spend $70K+. Hopefully they bring it soon or else I won't have much of a choice...
Heh, I meant more that most of us won't be able to afford it. If you regularly buy Range Rovers and BMWs, you probably can. I cannot.
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Unread 05-06-2012, 10:10 AM   #29
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Speak for yourself. As a former Range Rover owner (will never go there again) and a current BMW 535xi wagon owner, I would buy a Grand Wagoneer in a second if it is at least as good as the Grand Cherokee. The only thing holding me back from buying the Grand Cherokee as a replacement to the BMW wagon, is the lack of cargo capacity (and the diesel). While I could afford the new Mercedes GL, I would much prefer not having to spend $70K+. Hopefully they bring it soon or else I won't have much of a choice...
What about the Q7 TDI? Definitely not as rugged looking, but it's got the space going for it. Interior in that car is top notch too, very comfortable and luxurious. X5 diesel I think might be slightly bigger than GC as well.

It seems odd to me that the GC would have less cargo room than the 535 wagon. If it were just similar and not enough of a cargo space upgrade to justify it, I could definitely understand that.

Truth be told, I was looking a used GL350s before I got my GC, and was turned off by the royal PITA to find one equipped the way I wanted (their damn a la carte options annoy me to no end - why keyless go is an a la carte option on a truck costing over $50k as opposed to just being standard is beyond me).

I have high hopes for the GW, if it's s good as the GC is, and not priced totally absurdly (if the GW that starts at $50k is akin to a Limited model GC I would be OK with that - would be OK with a TDI 4x4 Overland model that stickered in the low 60s, I won't ever pay sticker or even invoice, so the actual cost of the car would be significantly less), it's a strong possibility for being the next vehicle for the wifey.
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Unread 05-06-2012, 05:07 PM   #30
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Q7 is big on the outside but not very big on inside and just doesn't do it for me. Grand Cherokee has more cargo space than 535xi wagon but it just doesn't have enough space to make the jump. X5 is a bit bigger but still just not enough. We love BMW and the service we get so I would love to stick with the brand. I have an M3 and my folks have an X5 diesel.
If nothing is out by this time next year I will probably just get the diesel Grand Cherokee and make use of our roof top cargo box. I'm hoping the Grand Wagoneer shows up before then.
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