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Unread 02-19-2009, 09:15 PM   #16
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Ventilated Front Seats is the smartest thing I have seen in a long time. I saw in PopSci once that if your vehicle has ventilated front seats you can reduce the amount of gas being use for A/C by 90%.

Air Suspension sounds nice too.

I also think the Commander is going to be dropped if they make a 7PASS version of the GC.

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Unread 02-19-2009, 09:36 PM   #17
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Ventilated Front Seats is the smartest thing I have seen in a long time. I saw in PopSci once that if your vehicle has ventilated front seats you can reduce the amount of gas being use for A/C by 90%.

Air Suspension sounds nice too.

I also think the Commander is going to be dropped if they make a 7PASS version of the GC.
Smart indeed!

The problem with the air suspension is when you decide to do a lift, which is why Jeep didn't jump on that bandwagon years ago when GM started doing it. It's nice to have the option, though.

According to all of the inside info buzz, the Commander will not make it past 2010. All of the Auto sites state that it has been dropped.
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Unread 02-20-2009, 01:57 AM   #18
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Take a look at page 135 of the PDF @ year 2011... Fiat based Jeep new vehicle entry...
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Unread 02-20-2009, 02:22 PM   #19
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Has anyone actually read this restructuring plan?

It's absolutely NUTS. Chrysler is dead in the water.

"An Orderly Wind Down will result in significant
social impact, with 300,000 jobs lost at Chrysler
and its suppliers and over 3,300 dealers failing.
2-3 million jobs could be lost due to a follow-on
collapse in the wider industry, resulting in a $150
billion reduction in U.S. Government revenue
over 3 years (Page 163)."

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The .pdf is great! There's a page that has the entire line for 2010, including the next gen Charger and 300, as well as the Durango, which shares the same platform with the WL.

http://www.media.chrysler.com/dcxms/..._Viability.pdf

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Finally! Cup holders in the doors!!! I miss that from my '98 GMC Jimmy... What is up with the Durango?! FU-UGLY! It looks like the current Sequoia, not a Durango.
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Unread 02-20-2009, 04:55 PM   #20
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Wow some of these new cars sure do look nice though,

Page 129 has the "200C" looks like a Lexus IS
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Unread 03-02-2009, 11:33 PM   #21
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What do you guys think of this?

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Guys, if you take a close look at this pic.. I am pretty sure it is IRS. Look at the lower arm pivot points and also look where the exhaust is run. That would not work on a SRA setup.



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I see what he's talking about, but it looks like there's a "pumpkin" there too. The leaked specs in that .pdf list dual axles and IFS/IRS, so maybe there'll be 2 options (?!) I don't know what to make of it. Here's the info:

2010 Grand Cherokee predicted features (includes WKJeeps.com exclusive advance info)

World debut - New York Auto Show, Wednesday April 8, 2009
Jefferson North Assembly plant to shut down in fall 2009 for major upgrade
Production startup 1st quarter 2010, spring 2010 introduction
Laredo, Limited and Overland models
3.7L and 4.7L engines replaced with new 3.6L VVT Phoenix engines
5.7L Hemi MDS VVT continues (Limited, Overland models)
5-passenger and 7-passenger models
New: Active Noise Cancellation (interior noise reduction)
New: Adaptive Speed Control with Stop & Go feature
New: Air suspension system, adjustable (load level/height control)
New: Aluminum front and rear low friction ZF axles
New: Command View Sunroof (power front, fixed rear)
New: Heated steering wheel
New: Independent front and rear suspension
New: Keyless Go
New: MediaFLO Streaming Video
New: Power liftgate
New: Proximity Entry
New: Rear Cross Path and Blind Spot Monitoring system
New: Ventilated front seats


Here's some info about the ZF Axles:

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/17/c...t-in-michigan/
http://www.gizmag.com/go/7426/


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Unread 03-03-2009, 09:08 PM   #22
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I see what he's talking about, but it looks like there's a "pumpkin" there too. The leaked specs in that .pdf list dual axles and IFS/IRS, so maybe there'll be 2 options (?!) I don't know what to make of it.
hmm... this pic is off a CR-V, I think. You can also see a "pumpkin" in rear diffs for IRS:

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Unread 03-07-2009, 12:16 AM   #23
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hmm... this pic is off a CR-V, I think. You can also see a "pumpkin" in rear diffs for IRS:

Thanks for that, Joe! It seems like this may be a good setup because ZF axles are known for being sturdy and there would be better clearance, but independent suspensions are more expensive to lift, so I'm torn.
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Unread 03-07-2009, 08:16 PM   #24
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It has the proportions of a minivan, and the independent suspension to match.
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Unread 03-08-2009, 07:20 PM   #25
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It has the proportions of a minivan, and the independent suspension to match.
I don't know about the newest Chrysler minivans but all the ones before had a solid (beam) rear suspension.

ZF probably got the nod for the axles because too many customers were complaining about the "normal for Dana" axle clunk. Hard to market a SUV as luxury when it comes with extra noises.
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Unread 03-09-2009, 12:48 AM   #26
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Ugh .. the rear of it just looks like one of those lexus trucks .. I don't know about you guys but I like driving my WJ and actually feeling like I'm driving a truck .. I hate that looks like a truck but rides like a car crap. I got 3 cars at my house, if I wanted to feel like I was driving a car, I wouldn't have bought a jeep.
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Unread 03-09-2009, 01:42 AM   #27
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It's like a BMW X3 mated with an XJ and that came out.
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Unread 03-09-2009, 01:33 PM   #28
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I dunno...looks closer to my WJ than the WK...




I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt until we see more of it in April at the New York Auto Show.
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Unread 03-25-2009, 12:04 PM   #29
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Some more images from leftlanenews.com. Looks like they were running without the bumpers for some reason. (Maybe these are the off-road bumpers?? )

The IRS setup is more visible in these pics:











Link: http://www.leftlanenews.com/jeep-gra...okee-2010.html
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Unread 04-05-2009, 02:44 PM   #30
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Saw this on Allpar, a speculative SRT8

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