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post #16 of 48 Old 01-31-2011, 07:18 AM
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Oh come on guys, those Fiat Panda pictures with a photoshopped Jeep-logo on them have been around for 2 years already. If Jeep will make a new small off-roader based on the same platform as the Panda, then sure as hell it will not look like that. They'll make the exterior more "Jeep", as well as the inside.

An entry model for Jeep cannot look like that, i.e. "Ciao, I come from Italy, I'm cheap but I'm crap!". Such a launch will have some balls attached to it, bigger wheels, more aggressive look, and some interior hardcore-candy. Trust me.

There will be a little Jeep also in the future (about the size of CJ-5), but it will look more like a modernized CJ-5, and less like the Panda. And if they finish it right, it could be a massive hit.


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post #17 of 48 Old 01-31-2011, 05:30 PM
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The Fiat 500 will list for around $15K, so our Panda should cost more, Chrysler plans to restyle the Pandas some? maybe to look more like a jeep,http://www.allpar.comhas some new info on the Panda . look at allpar news, then go to upcoming models
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Oh come on guys, those Fiat Panda pictures with a photoshopped Jeep-logo on them have been around for 2 years already. If Jeep will make a new small off-roader based on the same platform as the Panda, then sure as hell it will not look like that. They'll make the exterior more "Jeep", as well as the inside.

An entry model for Jeep cannot look like that, i.e. "Ciao, I come from Italy, I'm cheap but I'm crap!". Such a launch will have some balls attached to it, bigger wheels, more aggressive look, and some interior hardcore-candy. Trust me.

There will be a little Jeep also in the future (about the size of CJ-5), but it will look more like a modernized CJ-5, and less like the Panda. And if they finish it right, it could be a massive hit.
Thank you. How many times do we have to see these pics?

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i dono if this concept is better or worse

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post #20 of 48 Old 02-04-2011, 10:45 AM
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Needs to have an open roof.

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post #22 of 48 Old 02-05-2011, 11:53 AM
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What a joke of an obvious hoax. First of all, 59mpg from an AWD gasoline engine with final drive ratio of 4:1? Not possible. Secondly, base price of $10,500? Dream on. The Tata Nano is more expensive. Not to mention the ridiculous photochopped pics that have been circulating since the first rumors of Fiat buying Chrysler came out.

Who posts crap like this and expects anyone to take it seriously?


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post #23 of 48 Old 02-05-2011, 09:19 PM
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The compass could get an extra 20mpg better be very capable 4x4 keeping up with everyone else and still get bashed by those .
I always though that Jeep geared their products more towards the off roaders. But I guess if all these Compass driving soccer moms are willing to buy a few vehicles it can only help keep the REAL jeeps coming for us "wrangler loving Arse clowns".

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lmfao,the geo tracker lives again!!!as a jeep????hopefully not
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post #25 of 48 Old 02-06-2011, 02:33 PM
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lmfao,the geo tracker lives again!!!as a jeep????hopefully not
A Tracker would be much more capable than this Fiat. Trackers were very capable 4x4's and had open tops as any offroader should.

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A Tracker would be much more capable than this Fiat. Trackers were very capable 4x4's and had open tops as any offroader should.
trackers/sidekicks etc are alright but I think the panda would eat a tracker alive. ELSD's front and rear, look at some youtube videos

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trackers/sidekicks etc are alright but I think the panda would eat a tracker alive. ELSD's front and rear, look at some youtube videos
i dont think a panda could "eat anything alive." It may be marginally better then a tracker, but in the end, both suck.

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i dont think a panda could "eat anything alive." It may be marginally better then a tracker, but in the end, both suck.
What are you basing the Trackers suck comment on? My Trackers with aggressive tires have been able to go anywhere my stock Wrangler's could. Granted you can lift a Wrangler a lot more than a Tracker. But stock for stock (or even mildly lifted) I'd say they are equally capable.

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aside from the drive train components being weak, and being a blah platform, I worked at a chevy dealer back home (buffalo) and had better luck driving the cavaliars around the lot in the snow. They are basically re badge Geo's which were death traps on the highway. They were cheap and got decent fuel economy, but thats about it.

And stock for stock, i wouldnt put them close to a wrangler...

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The drivetrain components are sturdy enough given the weight of the vehicle. Similar to how a D35 is sturdy enough for a non lifted Wrangler. If they were bad in the snow it was the fault of the stock tires, not the vehicle. If you haven't actually had one offroad you are not qualified to comment on their capability.

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