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Unread 01-28-2011, 06:28 PM   #1
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2011 Jeep Phoenix (mini 4X4)

Gramps, the mpg is excellent, It be nice if chrysler put a diesel in it or nade it electric......


The cockpit is designed around all of the requirements for handy offroading. Revealed! The 2011 Jeep Phoenix 4x4, a remarkable 1.3 litre, 5 door, four wheel drive mini-Jeep that is going to take the North American market by storm, while still getting almost 59 mpg!

Based on the Fiat Panda Cross 4x4, the Jeep Phoenix is simply rebadged, but completely suited to North American offroad conditions. It is also an exceptional city car that gets far higher mpg than any hybrid on the market, including the Honda Insight and the Toyota Prius. And all that with a conventional gasoline engine with no hybrid technology anywhere!

The new Jeep is very aptly named Phoenix as it is the type of vehicle that will allow Jeep to arise magically from the ashes of the devastated Chrysler. Just days away from what may be the last days of Chrysler, it is important to note that there are virtually no scenarios that allow for the Jeep brand to disappear from the face of the Earth. For many years, Jeep has been the most powerful brand in the Chrysler lineup and it is effectively inconceivable that Jeep will not continue in one way or another even in the death throes of Chrysler: Perhaps as a standalone brand, or maybe as a brand belonging to another major automotive manufacturer

The Panda / Phoenix 4x4 is definitely the way of the future for Jeep. It's a small, incredibly economical and thrifty car that can go anywhere. Yes, its barely 1.3 litre engine would make it the smallest displacement automobile currently sold in the USA with only the Smart Car having a tinier engine, but the Panda / Phoenix delivers. It can very comfortably cruise at highway speeds and the powerplant contains enough grunt to take the little mini-Jeep up frighteningly steep inclines.

With an innovative four wheel drive system which is engaged by viscous coupling with two Electronic Locking Differentials that cut in below 20 mph to brake wheels that find themselves without grip and slipping and proceed to transfer torque to the other wheels, the Panda / Phoenix 4x4 can handle anything the street or the dirt can throw at it.

Here are some specs for the Panda/Phoenix 4x4:

ESTIMATED NORTH AMERICAN PRICE • $10,500

SPECIFICATIONS & OUTPUT

•Body Style • Hatchback
•Doors • Number of • 5
•Seats • Number of • 5
•Engine Displacement (cc) & Cylinders • 1248 / 4
•Valves • Number of • 8

•Gears
•1st • 3.909:1

2nd • 2.158:1

3rd • 1.345:1

4th • 0.974:1

5th • 0.744:1

Reverse • 3.818:1

Final drive ratio • 4.062:1
•4x4 Specs
•Incidence angle • 24°

Exit angle • 42°

Slope angle • 24°

Climbable gradient • 50%
•Type of Fuel • Unleaded
•Maximum Power (bhp @ rpm) • 54 / 5000
•Torque (lb / ft) • 65
•Engine Layout • Front
•Wheel Drive • Four Wheel
•Overall Length (mm) • 3538
•Overall Width (mm) • 1578
•Overall Height (mm) • 1540
•Front Seat Head Room (mm) • 940
•Front Seat Leg Room (mm) • 1010
•Rear Seat Head Room (mm) • 935
•Rear Seat Knee Room (mm) • 585
•Trunk Capacity Seats Up (litres) • 206
•Trunk Capacity Seats Down (litres) • 860
•Turning Radius (m) • 9.1
•Towing Capacity (kg) • 800
•Curb Weight (kg) • 840
PERFORMANCE

•0 to 60 MPH (secs) • 15
•Top speed (MPH) • 93
EQUIPMENT AVAILABILITY & PRICING

EXTERIOR

SECURITY & SAFETY FEATURES

•Automatic Transmission • Option Not Available
•Central Locking System • Standard Equipment
•Power Assisted Steering • Standard Equipment
•Seat Belt Pre-Tensioners • Standard Equipment
•Driver Side Air Bag • Standard Equipment
•Passenger Side Air Bag • Standard Equipment
•Anti Lock (ABS) Brakes • Standard Equipment
•Vehicle Immobilizer • Standard Equipment
•Visible VIN • Standard Equipment
•Secure Spare Tire • Standard Equipment
•Etched Parts • Standard Equipment
•Window Etching • Standard Equipment
•Side Impact Safety Bars • Standard Equipment
•Rain Sensing Windshield Wipers • Standard Equipment
CONVENIENCE & COMFORT FEATURES

•Adjustable Steering Height • Standard Equipment
•Power Front Windows • Standard Equipment
SOUND, NAVIGATION & COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS

•Theft Proof Radio • Standard Equipment
•CD With RDS • Standard Equipment
OPERATING COSTS

•City MPG • 39.2
•Highway MPG • 58.9
•Combined MPG • 49.6
•Fuel Tank Capacity (gallons) • 7.7
•Carbon Dioxide Rating (g / km) • 135
•Estimated Average Insurance • $273.00
•Percentage Value Retained (3 Years / 36,000 mi) • 33.00%
•Estimated Average Monthly Lease Cost • $175.00
•Maintenance Factor • 24
•Estimated Maintenance Cost Over 3 Years • $680.00
•Maintenance Intervals • 9,000 mi
•Manufacturer's Warranty Term • 3 Year / 40,000 mi
Yes, of course, there is no such thing as the 2011 Jeep Phoenix. Not yet anyway. However, this Hub goes to show how there is no need for extensive redesigning and reskinning of some of the best Fiat models. They can go on sale right away, without having to be extensively modified in any way other than to meet North American safety and emissions regulations!

I've driven a Panda for thousands of miles in Europe and can assure anyone that it is a spectacularly capable car, with ridiculous amounts of room considering the overall size of the vehicle, and more than powerful enough to shred any highway speed limit in North America. It is nothing short of an amazing small car and when dressed up in Phoenix 4x4 garb it will make an astounding, proper, suitable, and extremely welcome economy addition to the Jeep lineup.

I'd buy one as soon as they hit the showrooms. They may not be in Chrysler showrooms, but there will be some dealer network somewhere that will carry this exceptional mini 4x4 onroad/offroad great city car!

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Unread 01-28-2011, 06:30 PM   #2
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Unread 01-28-2011, 08:08 PM   #3
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Needs a 3" lift and 30" tires . It's got nearly a 16:1 "crawl ratio". Not sure if you can get any 6' people in it either. I don't think I would want to be passed by a semi during a rain storm.

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I've driven a Panda for thousands of miles in Europe and can assure anyone that it is a spectacularly capable car, with ridiculous amounts of room considering the overall size of the vehicle, and more than powerful enough to shred any highway speed limit in North America. It is nothing short of an amazing small car and when dressed up in Phoenix 4x4 garb it will make an astounding, proper, suitable, and extremely welcome economy addition to the Jeep lineup (just like the Compass was so well received).
1. This ain't Europe.
2. The Compass still isn't accepted by many and this will have problems too.

We'll have to wait and see what real life brings us.
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This is why im buying a patriot before its replaced...
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Looks like a smart car and a first gen liberty had a bastard love child
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Unread 01-29-2011, 06:44 AM   #6
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54 hp and 65 ft/lbs of torque..... No thanks.
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Unread 01-29-2011, 06:46 AM   #7
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This is why im buying a patriot before its replaced...
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Unread 01-29-2011, 07:15 AM   #8
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Is it me, or does it look like in the 4th pic down, there is something wrong with the rear wheel. Just looks out of place, like someone dropped the body ontop but in a weird position...
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looks like a POS, if jeep comes out with that, everyone better sell their stock before that!!!!

On a different note, i do like the cockpit design!
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The compass could get an extra 20mpg better be very capable 4x4 keeping up with everyone else and still get bashed by those wrangler loving Arse clowns.

I generally like wranglers I even own one, but I typically dont like the jerky attitudes owner seem to have against the compass. I can tow my tj with my mk and still get better gas mileagle then my just driving the tj to where ever I am going to off road.
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The compass could get an extra 20mpg better be very capable 4x4 keeping up with everyone else and still get bashed by those wrangler loving Arse clowns.

I generally like wranglers I even own one, but I typically dont like the jerky attitudes owner seem to have against the compass. I can tow my tj with my mk and still get better gas mileagle then my just driving the tj to where ever I am going to off road.
The more I visit the MK side of the forum, the more I see how many MK drivers are pissed at wrangler drivers... This could be due to the fact that, yes, some people can be jerks... But sometimes i think i has more to do with having to "prove" something.

EDIT: this post is no better then the ones made by those "wrangler loving arse clowns" that you seem to hate... In an attempt to make light of something, you have basically become what you hate...
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Dear God no.

I can't stand the styling of those so-called Smart cars and the last thing I want to see is a Jeep with a similar look. Guess I'm buying an 2012 Patriot when it rolls out.
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Dear God no.

I can't stand the styling of those so-called Smart cars and the last thing I want to see is a Jeep with a similar look. Guess I'm buying an 2012 Patriot when it rolls out.
I basically decided that the 70th anniversary edition will be mine
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