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Unread 10-07-2011, 06:57 AM   #1
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2-dr JK in TJ Unlimited length?

Any word on making the JK 2-door with a longer wheelbase similar to the TJ Unlimited? I'm not looking for a Gladiator/truck, just a longer wheelbase providing more interior space.

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Unread 10-07-2011, 08:51 AM   #2
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There simply isn't any excess capacity on the Wrangler production line for any more versions. There was a one off Jeep concept built a few of years ago that was a two door Wrangler with a 110 inch wheelbase. That put it between the production 2 dr and 4 dr Wranglers.

The Wrangler "JKL" mid way down the page.

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Unread 10-07-2011, 03:02 PM   #3
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Ya, I figured as much. If only they'd let me establish they're platforms.
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Nope. The 4-door JK is the reason the Wrangler is one of the best-selling vehicles in North America right now (Ranks around 22nd place, IIRC)-2-doors sell the same that they always have (Well, but not even the best-selling model at Jeep), but the 4-doors sell at a 3/2 ratio to 2-doors right now. The LJ, on the other hand, while cool and proof that people wanted more practical Wranglers, never set the sales charts on fire.
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Unread 10-14-2011, 11:43 AM   #5
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No doubt the 4-drs sell. I just wish they'd offer the extended wheelbase as an option.
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They kind of do...



We just can't have them.

It WOULD be nice to see someone make a full-length top to go with the new JK-8 kit.
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There simply isn't any excess capacity on the Wrangler production line for any more versions. There was a one off Jeep concept built a few of years ago that was a two door Wrangler with a 110 inch wheelbase. That put it between the production 2 dr and 4 dr Wranglers.

The Wrangler "JKL" mid way down the page.

http://jeepin.com/news/2008ejs
Those are some awesome Jeeps! They should start incorporating a lot of those ideas into packages and production.
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If this is available to military customers, it must have some design merit, as did the CJ-8 in its day.....

These from the J8 Military Sales Catalogue:
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If this is available to military customers, it must have some design merit, as did the CJ-8 in its day.....
The JKU takes up the spot that the CJ-8 (And CJ-6 and LJ) did, though-and the sales numbers speak for themselves (120,000 JKs a year, 60% of them JKUs)

Plus, the requirements for a military or expedition customer are a little different than the mainstream...

BUT, the Gladiator is probably coming with the 2014/2015 revision, so hang tight.

EDIT: Also, as a side note, an updated (And currently unseen) version of the J8 is one of the front-runners to replace the HMMWV for US Special Forces use (They're looking for a small, light vehicle that will fit inside a helicopter)
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EDIT: Also, as a side note, an updated (And currently unseen) version of the J8 is one of the front-runners to replace the HMMWV for US Special Forces use (They're looking for a small, light vehicle that will fit inside a helicopter)
This might not be the updated up-armored version but is in the J8 lineup as well. A HMMWV replacement to complement the M-ATV? Sounds good to me..... looks like it will stand up to a Kalashnikov, and a bit more. Sling under a CH-47, UH-60, or other special USASOF craft. If put into service, hopefully armored J8s won't be utilized as the HMMWVs were in past wars. They were never designed to protect their occupants against the new types of threats they faced in recent conflicts. However, there was really no other alternative vehicle available to soldiers. We'll have to see what Yuma's (YPG) testing report says if a J8 variant ever makes it that far.

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the requirements for a military or expedition customer are a little different than the mainstream..
NOTE: The J8 version can be equipped with a Hemi, see below. I'd say that's ready for mainstream, especially given AEV's success..... D44 in front and D60 out back are basically Rubicon items, with a little enhancement. That's already on the market and we all have seen the sales marvel which is the Rubicon. As close to rock-ready as the factory can deliver.

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This might not be the updated up-armored version but is in the J8 lineup as well. HMMWV replacement to run along with the M-ATV?
Not an up-armoured version, if anything it'll be less-armoured. Not something to replace front-line HMMWVs and work with MRAPs, something more like a larger replacement/compliment to the old Desert Patrol Vehicle. The competitor is something called the Flyer, which looks like an oversized side-by-side mated with a DPV.

SOF Looking For A New Vehicle

They're not looking for a combat vehicle, rather a lightweight vehicle for overland travel from and to an operation-the kind of thing they can drive across the desert, ditch a KM away if need be, and have enough speed and armament in case they need to GTFO in a hurry.

Besides, the HMMWV is supposed to be completely phased out of frontline combat operations, and replaced with various MRAPs. It's the same trend that Canada and the UK have been into (You think HMMWVs go to hell in a city full of IEDs? Check out what happens when a Mercedes G-Wagen or a Land Rover Defender gets hit.... But they're already pretty much replaced for frontline combat.)

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Today, SOF units in Afghanistan are now moving back towards lighter combat loads and unarmored, but highly mobile, tactical vehicles.

Currently, Army Special Operations is seeking to identify a new Ground Mobility Vehicle to replace the Humvee. USASOC put out the word some time ago that it was looking for a SOF specific all-terrain vehicle that seated four troops to include the turret gunner.
The J8 is the favorite because it has more mounting capabilty, better ingress/egress and a much simpler engine and drivetrain, one that they can repair easily both in the field and in a base (The Flyer would have to be shipped back to the US for repairs).

I doubt the next-gen Wrangler will get a factory Hemi option (Sadly), but more because of the upcoming EPA regs and the general political incorrectness of it.

Plus, Hemi conversion kits are what keeps AEV in business, and we don't want them to go away.
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Any word on making the JK 2-door with a longer wheelbase similar to the TJ Unlimited? I'm not looking for a Gladiator/truck, just a longer wheelbase providing more interior space.
I said this same thing before, hence the reason I own an LJ and not a JK anymore. That JKL looks Great! I had a 4 door and they are to big for any kind of wheeling I like to do. Can't turn, breakover sux, etc. The 2 doors are much nicer offroad, but kinda short.
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