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post #1 of 33 Old 01-10-2012, 11:58 PM Thread Starter
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XJ rear swing out. your opinions on this idea (pics)


So I was helping my buddy install some goodies on his jeep a week ago and i really liked the look of his swing out carrier.




so i started thinking about how to do that for an XJ. I came up with what you see in the pictures below. I plan to "sandwich" the quarter panel in some areas to avoid ripping out any mounting bolts.

I'd like to get your feedback on this idea.




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you could do it that way but i dont know if i trust the entire carrier on just sheet metal when its opened. heres my favorite bumper, its a swing out AND a swing down tire carrier

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you could do it that way but i dont know if i trust the entire carrier on just sheet metal when its opened. heres my favorite bumper, its a swing out AND a swing down tire carrier
thats nice, but i like the stability and long life of the bushings. i've hear too many stories of home made spindle swing outs failing after a few years. And im not the best welder. all i got is a flux core. i know i can do this if i use the poly bushings mainly because they dont experience as much stress that a single spindle experiences.

I just need to find a strong base for mounting. just thought i could possibly remove the tail lights and have a 90* bend in the quarter panel plate. that might not make sense but ill make a cardboard version tomorrow.

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I wish I could find you the threads, but many people have done this using the stock tire carrier off other vehicles and even stock Cherokee ones(rare). They generally mount on the other side, there's write-ups on the reinforcement and installation if you are up to search for them.

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post #5 of 33 Old 01-11-2012, 03:20 PM
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sweet idea. i planned to try something that's sort of a mix of those two ideas. its not gonna happen with school and barely working though.

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so here's my idea:
get rid of the stock taillights and fab taillights into the swing out.
bend 3/16" steel 90* and trim so it fits nicely
1/8" steel on the inside to avoid ripping out the mounting bolts
what do all of you think? strong enough to support a 33" tire and 2 gas cans?






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I wish I could find you the threads, but many people have done this using the stock tire carrier off other vehicles and even stock Cherokee ones(rare). They generally mount on the other side, there's write-ups on the reinforcement and installation if you are up to search for them.
stock tire carriers are crap and look like it too, i dont wanna tinker with them.

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post #7 of 33 Old 01-12-2012, 05:54 PM
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I read somewhere that a guy took a bronco tire carrier and mounted it to his xj. His idea was similar to yours as he attached reinforced steel for the mounts but he did it from the inside so he could keep the stock look.
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I did the bronco mounts. I never actually mounted it because I never got around to doing the upper mount. But I did test mount it with just the lower mount and it was pretty darn strong. Then someone threw away the carrier that i had stored in the backyard. The bronco carrier is fairly easy. Holden350 and keepishop did the tire carrier mods if I recall correctly.
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I love the idea. Don't worry about fabbing lights. Cut out a circle in between the hinges and mount a round harbor freight light there. It will look great and function great. I love the idea.
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for a spindle I would go this route:

http://www.atozfabrication.com/store...Hinge-Kit.html

and no, I would not put it on the sheet metal of the body.

I would tie it into the bumper mounts and the hitch mounts... kinda like I did mine.
(pics in the build thread)

there is a lot of weight back there once you get a tire/gas can... and quite a bit of leverage. if you were going with a small tire it might work.
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The sheetmetal will hold if you put a plate behind the sheetmetal and sandwich it. My lower mount could hold my weight (230 lbs)
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post #12 of 33 Old 01-13-2012, 08:06 AM
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Agreed, brace it and it should take, Just don't let anybody jump on it while it's swung out. Keep the pics coming! If this works out well I may do one myself!
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here's what im thinkin i should do now that i've heard lots of opinions.

the two sides will be different one side will be the one that will support most of the weight (the side it swings out on) on the support side i will sandwich it and gusset it to the frame and the trunk floor.
3/16", body panel, 3/16"+gussets.

on the other side (the side that just keeps it closed) i will do a simple sandwich
3/16", body pannel, 1/8"

based off this mock-up


any thoughts? is 3/16" overkill?

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or just do it the way everyone else does it and use a spindle on the bumper..

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