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post #46 of 78 Old 03-26-2016, 02:51 PM
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You may as well cut them off for aesthetic purposes. If you were ever gonna put it back to short arm just buy some HD brackets and be better off.
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post #47 of 78 Old 10-27-2016, 09:42 AM Thread Starter
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Been a while, but I'm back after working on the jeep some more, it's now 3" long armed, locked front and rear and sitting on 37x14 bias iroks, been wheeling the hell out of it, broke one d30 shaft u-joint, got new shafts and put the spicer 5-760x u-joints in and have yet to have a problem, so basically I've done everything that the forum says can't be done, steering is next on the list
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I also just got finished with swapping another 4.0 in after I lost a piston in the last one with 240k on it, got a shifter from RADesigns to control my shifts for my AW4 and I had too much fun in 1st gear on rev limiter lol but it's all good again, still more to come
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post #49 of 78 Old 10-27-2016, 10:45 AM
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Glad it's been working out for you. I am looking into finally going to long arms on my XJ but have been considering going higher... Most of the trails I run are very rutted out and rocky and I think the extra height will help. I am currently sitting at 1.5" on 33's. You running skid plates to help with the fact that you are as low as you are? Looks like your rocker panels have been taking a beating.

How much up travel do you have in the rear? I am getting about 5" currently and my 33's hit the front, top, and rear of the fender at the same time with the cut and fold. I imagine your getting a litte less up travel with 37's at only 3".

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Good job bud. Glad to hear you're pleased with the end result. Idk how many folks are gonna follow in your footsteps, but you have proven it can be done and end up somewhat functional. Do the long arms hit the frame rail on uptravel?

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Good job bud. Glad to hear you're pleased with the end result. Idk how many folks are gonna follow in your footsteps, but you have proven it can be done and end up somewhat functional. Do the long arms hit the frame rail on uptravel?
I've been toying with the idea for awhile and started following this when it popped up. I'd likely go for a 3 or 4 link instead of a radius arm though. CavFab most likely.

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post #52 of 78 Old 10-27-2016, 01:25 PM
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IIRC it was about 10 years ago when an (ex?) forum member KTMracer went the low COG route with wider axles, running 37s and IIRC something like 2"-3" lift height. Everyone at the time was saying he is stupid and it can't be done ... "you need at least 8" of lift for 37s"

I built my XJ around 4" true lift height, long arms and 35s. I could've done it on 3" lift. IMO, something like JK Rubi axle swap + 37s and ~3" lift for an XJ would be pretty ideal. Preferrably 3-link front + dbl. tri. 4-link rear.


To the OP: I would not expect your front axle to survive too long with the 37s, but with good luck it may work for awhile. I would start saving for a D44 swap.

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Glad it's been working out for you. I am looking into finally going to long arms on my XJ but have been considering going higher... Most of the trails I run are very rutted out and rocky and I think the extra height will help. I am currently sitting at 1.5" on 33's. You running skid plates to help with the fact that you are as low as you are? Looks like your rocker panels have been taking a beating.

How much up travel do you have in the rear? I am getting about 5" currently and my 33's hit the front, top, and rear of the fender at the same time with the cut and fold. I imagine your getting a litte less up travel with 37's at only 3".
Yes they have taken a beatin pretty bad, I use my long arms and crossmember as my skid and I tell you, it's tough! Never had a single issue, I figure I'll use up my rocker panels then cut them out and replace them with 2x6 or whatever size it is people use for replacing those and for use as Rick sliders, now uptravel... The front stops perfectly for the 37s, leaves about an inch for tire clearance and full tuck, now the rear still needs some work but for now it has about 2" of uptravel and I'm still working on some bumpstops lol
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Good job bud. Glad to hear you're pleased with the end result. Idk how many folks are gonna follow in your footsteps, but you have proven it can be done and end up somewhat functional. Do the long arms hit the frame rail on uptravel?
Thanks! I personally love it and it turns heads big time on the trails at my local orv park! The long arms don't hit a single thing, now if you kept 3" lift shocks and kept stock bumpstops, they might but I have yet to have a clearance issue with them!
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Yes they have taken a beatin pretty bad, I use my long arms and crossmember as my skid and I tell you, it's tough! Never had a single issue, I figure I'll use up my rocker panels then cut them out and replace them with 2x6 or whatever size it is people use for replacing those and for use as Rick sliders, now uptravel... The front stops perfectly for the 37s, leaves about an inch for tire clearance and full tuck, now the rear still needs some work but for now it has about 2" of uptravel and I'm still working on some bumpstops lol
If I could fab better (or knew someone with access to a good shop) I'd replicate the Dirtbound u-bolt plate design for rear stops. Easy to adjust and should be plenty solid. They're just real proud of them (dirtbound is really proud of everything but their bumpers)

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I've been toying with the idea for awhile and started following this when it popped up. I'd likely go for a 3 or 4 link instead of a radius arm though. CavFab most likely.
The radius arm setup works perfectly at 3" if you got enough caster adjustment, plus it stretches the front about 2" just bc of how long they are, so it worked out good for me running big tires! Plus it keeps my pinion in a perfect line with the front driveshaft
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IIRC it was about 10 years ago when an (ex?) forum member KTMracer went the low COG route with wider axles, running 37s and IIRC something like 2"-3" lift height. Everyone at the time was saying he is stupid and it can't be done ... "you need at least 8" of lift for 37s"

I built my XJ around 4" true lift height, long arms and 35s. I could've done it on 3" lift. IMO, something like JK Rubi axle swap + 37s and ~3" lift for an XJ would be pretty ideal. Preferrably 3-link front + dbl. tri. 4-link rear.


To the OP: I would not expect your front axle to survive too long with the 37s, but with good luck it may work for awhile. I would start saving for a D44 swap.
Yeah I've been thinking but I've got probably 20 trips under the d30s belt with the 37s and have yet to have a major issue, opened the diff up about a week ago to swap fluid and no cracks or chips, metal of any kind so I think for what it is, the d30 has been a damn tough axle
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If I could fab better (or knew someone with access to a good shop) I'd replicate the Dirtbound u-bolt plate design for rear stops. Easy to adjust and should be plenty solid.
Yeah I'm slowing down in the jeep some cause I've got another project I'm working on and doing both is tough lol but bumpstops and steering is next
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The radius arm setup works perfectly at 3" if you got enough caster adjustment, plus it stretches the front about 2" just bc of how long they are, so it worked out good for me running big tires! Plus it keeps my pinion in a perfect line with the front driveshaft

It's not that I think it wouldn't work, it's just that I appreciate the added stability of true 3 or 4 link. I was cruising at 85 just to keep up with traffic this morning, the ride home has an even longer stretch like that. That's why I've kept my lift pretty low so far. Well that and the towing. It's just a matter of either A) boosting to ~4"-4.5" and using drop brackets to relevel with true 4-link or B) staying low and trying out a long arm. Honestly I don't ever want to go over 33's because I don't need them for what I do and I don't want to regear. So staying lower is more appealing on that front.

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So even more work has been getting done to the old Cherokee, it's now getting comp cut and stretched a few inches in the rear, got most of the metal out of the way just got to relocate the filler neck and what not and finish cutting and start replacing metal, ended up with carbon monoxide poisoning from driving the damn thing home but I'm over that and ready to start back on it
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