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post #31 of 78 Old 02-10-2016, 07:53 PM Thread Starter
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Alright so the long arms are here and I can't wait to jump on this over the weekend, got everything I need. Brakelines I installed last weekend, bumpstops will probably come tomorrow and start the LAs Friday night Into Saturday if I have to! I'm excited to see how this works out

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post #32 of 78 Old 02-14-2016, 05:45 PM Thread Starter
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So I spent all weekend workin on this and all I have left is the bump stops, but I got it all put together and driving, I didn't get many pictures of the install but I definitely think this was well worth the expense just bc of the ride quality improvement and the flex has changed drastically! The install was pretty straight forward but it did push the front axle forward about an inch or so since the lift was so small, the upper control arms were a pain to get off and ended up having to cut the bolts off and part of my glove and finger haha but if you're thinking about doing this, idk about anything other than the IRO long arms but you will have to move some exhaust around since the passengers arm over laps the exhaust by about a half inch or more and all the stock mounts have to come off, so if you don't feel comfortable cutting things off and making your jeep a permanent long arm jeep I wouldn't try this, you take a chance of cutting them off and the long arms causing an issue and you won't be able to bolt the stock stuff back up! Any questions feel free to ask!
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post #33 of 78 Old 02-14-2016, 05:48 PM Thread Starter
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Here is a before and after shot of my jeep flexed out with the aftermarket short arms with Johnny joints and the bottom picture with the new long arms!
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post #34 of 78 Old 02-14-2016, 06:12 PM
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Nice!!! So other than the exhaust and lca mounts everything else clears? If so IRO might be getting some of my money in the near future

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post #35 of 78 Old 02-15-2016, 05:44 AM Thread Starter
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For the most part, but you will have to bumpstop to almost no up travel, it's not for a daily driver unless you're crazy like me lol I'm also not 100% sure the caser adjuster has enough adjustment so I just maxed it out till I take it to the alignment shop
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post #36 of 78 Old 02-19-2016, 10:30 PM Thread Starter
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Alright so I've got two sets of shocks sitting around for this build, got them bc they were cheap and will help give me an idea about what imma like better with these long arms, I've got 2 sets of rustys Rx100s one is for a 4.5" lift and the other is for a 6" lift, I ran the 4.5" lift shocks in the before and after picture above, the 6" shocks I just put on tonight and will show tomorrow what it'll really do! They limit up travel very nicely, especially since I plan on running bigger tires, they will stop the axle at a very good point so I'm not running everything I can lol I'm new to the forums and I'm only 19 so I'm trying my nest to keep updating this post
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post #37 of 78 Old 02-21-2016, 01:07 PM
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Alright so I've got two sets of shocks sitting around for this build, got them bc they were cheap and will help give me an idea about what imma like better with these long arms, I've got 2 sets of rustys Rx100s one is for a 4.5" lift and the other is for a 6" lift, I ran the 4.5" lift shocks in the before and after picture above, the 6" shocks I just put on tonight and will show tomorrow what it'll really do! They limit up travel very nicely, especially since I plan on running bigger tires, they will stop the axle at a very good point so I'm not running everything I can lol I'm new to the forums and I'm only 19 so I'm trying my nest to keep updating this post
You should not be using your shocks as bumpstops. And no way you should be running shocks built for a 6" lift on a 3" lift unless you have moved the mounting points quite a bit. Get some hockey pucks to extend your bumpstops and save your shocks. Check out Bilstein short body shocks if you want to keep any sort of uptravel, or just raise the lower mounting point of a set of 3" lift shocks. If you want to save money, find some JK Rubicon shocks, which should be longer than your stockers.

I don't really see the point of running longarms with a 3" lift and 31's. Maybe a custom 3/4 link, but not the IRO half radius kit. Or maybe if you were stuffing 35's in there and needed a lot of travel, but you can't be going through anything super tough with that little clearance. But since you already did it, which is fine, just get a decent shock in the correct length.

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You should not be using your shocks as bumpstops. And no way you should be running shocks built for a 6" lift on a 3" lift unless you have moved the mounting points quite a bit. Get some hockey pucks to extend your bumpstops and save your shocks. Check out Bilstein short body shocks if you want to keep any sort of uptravel, or just raise the lower mounting point of a set of 3" lift shocks. If you want to save money, find some JK Rubicon shocks, which should be longer than your stockers.

I don't really see the point of running longarms with a 3" lift and 31's. Maybe a custom 3/4 link, but not the IRO half radius kit. Or maybe if you were stuffing 35's in there and needed a lot of travel, but you can't be going through anything super tough with that little clearance. But since you already did it, which is fine, just get a decent shock in the correct length.
The shocks give me a few inches up travel and as I stated previously I plan on running bigger tires! They ride fine on the road and don't bottom out I've bump and speed bumps, I've got extended bumpstops and soon to have hockey pucks going in, I plan on running 33s or 35s, I'm keeping it as low as it can go plus I can still twist it up like a lift twice my size so I think I'm going in a great direction but I understand everybody has their opinion and I respect that! But thanks to all the guys helping me! I was jus about to hop on and see what everybody's input would be for running 35s? I got a D30/8.25 Locked/Locked and I've got some steering upgrades and gears to do if I go with 35s
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After running a 3" lift and 32's for a while, I learned that I needed a lot more ground clearance in the pointy east coast rocks. Went to a 4.5" lift, then needed more axle clearance, so I went to 35" tires. Cut a lot of fender, bumpstopped, and I thought it was a perfect setup. Still very low COG and stable, but plenty of clearance on the trails. I feel you will be very limited by your belly clearance and uptravel. Keeping the big tires out of your fenders means bumpstopping for very little uptravel, which means leaning the jeep over a lot more.


As far as the tires go, my advice is to upgrade everything you possibly can before going to 35s. I'm talking beefy steering, new unit bearings, better brakes pads and rotors, fix your drums or upgrade to rear disc brakes, and definitely gears/lockers/shafts. Upgrade anything you can to prevent trail breakage and repairs. Some guys will wing it and don't mind fixing stuff on the trails. I hated it, just a waste of time when I could be wheeling.


Gears for 35s should be 4.56 or 4.88. Get a good installer and a full case locker and beefy diff cover on the front will keep your gears intact. Aftermarket shafts and good u-joints on the front are almost a must. I ran an ARB and RCV's in the front axle for full beef. Still broke the ring gear from a bad install.

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My first wheeling trip with the long arms was a big success! Even on 31s, 33s will be coming soon enough, just waiting on the right set! But my flex is crazy and stays very stable on off camber situations!
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post #41 of 78 Old 03-23-2016, 10:03 PM
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Glad to hear that you are happy with the outcome. I think a lot of people will be glad that this is successfully documented somewhere now.

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Glad to hear that you are happy with the outcome. I think a lot of people will be glad that this is successfully documented somewhere now.
The IRO long arms upgrade is what I plan to do after I get out of boot camp. Stoaked!

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It's easy during this project to get in over your head, it took a little bit of doing and about a full week to get set up completely, also the LCA brackets get in the way at 3" so those have to be cut off or bent out if the way, so more than likely the jeep will never be short armed again if you ever got rid of it or something, I'm waiting to buy a new daily driver then the tires and all are coming in shortly after, I'm just glad I finally got that it is possible out here on the forum!
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It's easy during this project to get in over your head, it took a little bit of doing and about a full week to get set up completely, also the LCA brackets get in the way at 3" so those have to be cut off or bent out if the way, so more than likely the jeep will never be short armed again if you ever got rid of it or something, I'm waiting to buy a new daily driver then the tires and all are coming in shortly after, I'm just glad I finally got that it is possible out here on the forum!
Well I am currently sitting at 4.5 and will probably go a little higher so I may not need to cut the LCA brackets off. Anyways congrats at your success.

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Well I am currently sitting at 4.5 and will probably go a little higher so I may not need to cut the LCA brackets off. Anyways congrats at your success.
You may as well cut them off for aesthetic purposes. If you were ever gonna put it back to short arm just buy some HD brackets and be better off.

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