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Unread 10-30-2011, 06:54 PM   #1
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Wheel Spacers???

I have a 99 XJ with a 2" lift. I'm getting a great deal on a set of 265/75/15 on canyon rims. Do I need wheels spacers? Are there any handling advantages by using them if you don't need them. I'm new to mods on my Jeep, so any help is appreciated.

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Unread 10-30-2011, 07:28 PM   #2
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they may rub the stock LCAs, but you can always just adjust the steering limits. They do affect handling, but not that much. Its more strain on the steering and bearings though.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 07:29 PM   #3
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Wheel spacers are used to correct the backspacing of wheels, generally to fit larger tires without rubbing. They introduce issues of their own, like doubling the number of lug nuts you have to torque and making sure they don't loosen up, as well as added leverage and stress on the wheel bearings. Lots of people run them without issue, but if you don't need them, they offer added complexity without any advantages.

I don't know the specs of canyon rims so I can't comment on whether or not you'll need spacers, but if you don't, I wouldn't recommend running them.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 07:44 PM   #4
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Thanks for the feedback!
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Unread 10-30-2011, 07:57 PM   #5
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canyons= 15x8 w/5.25"BS
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Unread 10-30-2011, 08:53 PM   #6
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If you maintain them properly, and i would suggest ones that are hubcentric, they can get you teh same result as getting a tire with less backspace.

Same strain on the hubs and bearings as going with another wheel. Some people will try to sell you on a world of evil spacer voodoo, but if you look at the physics of it, a good quality one will do much the same. Dont get any that do not have their own lugs, torque them correctly, and check them after installation and running, like you would any other hardware.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 09:43 PM   #7
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I would add that the cost of good spacers may be more than getting a good set of rims with the proper backspacing. There is also tire installation and balancing to consider.

Could it be a good stopgap? maybe.
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Unread 10-30-2011, 11:38 PM   #8
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I run the Rough Country 1.5" spacers on my '90 XJ. 30x9.5R15's on OE limited wheels (not sure what they're called - the BBS style ones). Anyways, they rubbed like crazy in the front when turning. Spacers cured the problem and gave me a wider stance. I run them on my WJ too. I highly recommend them for larger tires on stock rims, due to the deep backspacing. The RC's and Spidertrax ones are well made, and if torqued down properly with red locktite, won't cause any problems.
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OMG your axles are gonna crack in half if you use spacers and there are so many parts that you'll go crazy and postalize the nearest shopping center ahhhhhhhh!!!!!


Seriously though. Spacers are the only way I was able to use my Moabs on my size tires. Locktite the *****es and you're good to go. Check em when you rotate your tires and you check your other lugs, takes you an extra 10 seconds a hub.

Spacers don't put anymore strain on your components than a set of similarly backspaced rims.

Its like the difference between a diaphragm and a condom, two different ways to attack the same problem
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Unread 10-31-2011, 08:03 AM   #10
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Why red loctite?

Ive seen it recommended lots of places, but every steering component I have pulled stock from jeep was held together with correct torque and blue locktite.

Red is for when you never want to get it apart again.
Blue is for when you just want a bit of heat to get it off there again.
Purple / green is for minor vibration resistance.

Anyone point to more than "I just heard it" or "better safe than sorry" argument? Thinking about it, i never loctit-ed my wheels, have you? What about when you need to do something like... change breaks, or some trail repair? Pulling out the torch when out there, and then having to swap out now annealed components?
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Spacers don't put anymore strain on your components than a set of similarly backspaced rims.
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Spacers on stock wheels give you the back spacing of most aftermarket wheels. Either way you need the backspacing to fit the bigger wheels properly without them being tucked into the wheel wells to much. I ran my 4.5 lift with the 32 x 11.50s without spacers on stock wheels for a while. It worked, I had to adjust the steering bumps, and the rear tires were about 3/4 of an inch from the springs. After the spacers they fit so much better and the truck had more of a stable stance.
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Why red loctite?
Spidertrax provided a tube of red locktite with their spacers, so I put it on the rough country ones too. In reality, I think it's just extra precaution, because the nuts are flanged and seat tight into the aluminum spacer, torqued at 90 lbs. There really is no reason to remove the spacers unless you are pulling the axle shafts out or getting a wheel with a shallower back spacing. Maybe to do the rear drum brakes they might have to be removed, but not on disc brakes.
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wouldn't you need to remove the spacer to replace the hub/bearing?
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Or to replace a rotor. Or a busted axelshaft.

Last one is less likely.
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wouldn't you need to remove the spacer to replace the hub/bearing?
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Or to replace a rotor. Or a busted axelshaft.

Last one is less likely.
Yeah, probably replacing brake pads is the only thing you can do without taking them off. I've never had to do anything but brakes on my jeeps, but I guess it's inevitable.
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